EVE General Discussion

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I do believe I just got called a goon. Not sure how I feel about that one....

47 years huh? I guess that makes me a whipper snapper.

I'm sure you know that I am talking about the consequences enacted on you in game. But I guess you losing your research POS and the blueprints it contained wouldn't be considered a consequence by you.

AS for what you said, it's things like:

Taken from your own signature.

How did Mittani get to his position? He was player-elected.

And we all know that EVE contains the scum of the MMO industry.

To put it famously, you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. Simply because the practices allowed here would be bannable offenses in most other MMO's.

This thread is a trap. *sigh*

This thread is worth the /popcorn.

Agree with the first sentence of the OP.

Agree in part with the second sentence (if combat PvP was the only thing in EVE, I don't think it would be as successful, personal opinion though).


The rest, I greatly disagree with, and unfortunately do not have the time to point out every single thing, so I'll just say this (Goons feel free to correct me on the following).

Goons don't want to ruin the game, or remove all PvE content.
They want to make the risk averse stop being risk averse.
They want the game to improve.
Most importantly, they want to have fun.

Also, for the most part CCP is doing fine. They just have too many ideas and periodically forget to listen when something isn't finished (sounds like a case of company wide ADHD...).


Whiny carebears (ie those who are risk averse and insist on not adapting and "quit" the second things don't go their way) are a blight upon EVE, whether they live in HS and mine without tanking and expect to be left alone or if they run anoms in Null and dock up for hours with only 1 neutral in local when they have several allies.

While I find a lot of goons to be hypocritical, their style of play is integral to the sandbox. The ONLY time I have been successfully ganked was when I was a stupid rookie and set auto-pilot and went to get some food.

If you want to mine in highsec to advance your career, great. I hope you get to bigger and better things. Every time I go out to mine, it's to get ISK, and to aspire to get out to null and see that Mercoxit for the first time (something I hope I'm very close to).

Hell, I used to get up at the crack of servers coming back on so I could be the first one out in one of the 0.9 belts when I was a rookie in my Iteron. I'm not quite as obsessed now, but the point is, EVE needs different play styles to survive. That's fact.

If carebears got their way, the game would become incredibly shallow and boring. The sandbox would be diminished. There would be NO point in lowsec or nullsec.

If the [hypocritical] gankers had their way, soon there'd be nothing worthy of suicide ganking. Highsec miners would quit, mineral prices would go through the roof, and if it was really bad, supplies would dry up, and the player-driven market would die.

Regardless of the radical aspirations of both parties, EVE needs both. That's fact.

Unfortunately it would seem both ccp and sony disagree with you OP.

I thought this guy quit?