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I've suggested there be a post-mortem as this is the only way to get closure for the playerbase beyond reverting the UI.

The worst part of this is, while I don't like the new UI, if CCP was more transparent and forthcoming, more people would be on their side, or at least sympathetic to their side. That wouldn't help me, but it would help CCP.

We're living in an age of relationship marketing and making your customers feel confused and ignored is horrible for any business. Companies that aren't accountable eventually implode.

I think the big takeaway from all of this, is the lack of leadership at CCP. Someone should have stood up during the first week, and explained the rationale, process and direction of this change. Answered questions until there were no more, and then moved on executing the changes which need to be made.

This half-compromise of changing little stuff and avoiding the big issues, while maintaining a stoic stiff upper lip is not the same as being responsive. Users are too smart today. People see CCP not being open and transparent, even if they like the UI, and that diminishes the prestige of the brand and the loyalty for the product.


I know what you are saying, but I also said this another way. We get very involved in this game. When you change the UI, that's bigger than changing ship designs or missile effects. It's bigger than tweaking drone regions or nerfing Incursions.

You're affecting the way every player interfaces with the game, a good part of the time.

This expansion was "light in the pants" and what should have been a key feature enhancement (improving the UI) has turned into CCP's 2012 Waterloo.

Bring back the Right Click and cut down the tree

They seem to enjoy shooting themselves in the foot on a fairly regular basis huh. I kinda feel for them.

Tree views and tabbed views are not equivalent.

Tree views are great when there's a lot of items, with some structure. You need all that area just to handle all the cases.

This would make them GREAT with the assets window -- it sorely needs this.

Tab views are better when you have fewer items, and want to switch between them easily. They're a perfect fit for corporate hangers which, sadly, have all too few sections. Containers in hangers are a poor workaround -- give us more hanger tabs instead, and you'd have made a lot of people happy!

The problem with the tree view in practice is simply that it is too inconvenient. Unlike the old tabbed hanger, the items you need to click on just aren't visible until you go scrolling around for them -- and they take up a whole lot of screen in the process.

What I'd really like is for the Inventory system to pick up a few bits of functionality from the Assets window -- and then replace that. I think all that would be needed would be able to select the scope -- reachable here, this POS, this system, this region, all of space. I'd also like personal vs corporate as another dimension of scope.

I'd like to be able to open multiple assets windows like this.

Then I'd like opening a specific container to act pretty much like it always did. I can think of a few improvements, but none worth expanding this discussion.

There are times when I'd use the (new) asset interface instead -- if I have an Orca load of GSC's to explore, for example, then the Unified Inventory (aka "New Assets") would definitely be easier to deal with.

But not when I know right where something is, and right where I want to put it. There is nothing the Unified Inventory system can contribute to that.

And then have the ability to open specific items again without the shift key, pretty much like they were before.

Can we have an option for Show Info to stop doing it, please?

Come to a wormhole. Open inventory at a POS.

Good luck bro.

Crucible wasn't bad. The overview change was stupid, but there was much less outrage, because it only affected a small segment of players.

Once they screwed up the overview, I basically stopped my billion isk a week ninja salvaging ops.

Which was ok. I put one alt in RvB, I got one alt doing billions in trade arbi and my main went to explore.

But now the inventory is screwed up, my alt in FW just skill trains, my trader just hauls, and my WH guy just does PI.

I try to avoid using the asset window so much, I barely play the game anymore except for flying, skill training and PI, all things which don't need the inventory system.

It's not that CCP doesn't like me, or my professions, or even my gameplay style. It's that they think either

1. We are edge cases, not representative of a larger whole

and/or

2. They can simply outwait us and we will get fatigued and accept the new system.

But they have forgotten about

3. When we unsub at the end of our subs to play a different game we don't have to fight with, made by a company which is happy to serve our needs.

I like my Eve friends a lot. But not enough that I am willing to jump through hoops to manage assets to play the game. I can do Eve relationships outside Eve, it's called "the rest of the internet" and it is mostly free, diverse and responsive.

Yes, I agree that you still have the "tabs", however one of the main problems here is that the old tabs used very little screen realestate. The tree view is huge (if you actualy wants to see all the divisions) and forces you to eighter acceept having way less space to actualy see what's in the hangar or having a very large window. Both of wich are bad.

List of requests:
1)
If opening a corp hangar or any array with hangar divisions in a new window. Have a horizontal bar roughly where the old hangar divsions were, with (you guessed it) the hangar divisions. Make this bar collapsible so that people can choose if they want to use it or the tree. (This would also be great for the cargohold window, where you could have all the bays of your active ship available - Shift-click functionality retained in case you want to open a division/bay in another window). And make it low profile.

2)
Assuming 1 isn't possible. When opening a corp hangar or any array with hangar divisions in a new window, have only the divisions related to that spesiffic hangar/array be listed in the tree and have a collapsed group underneath wich contained all other available items locations.

3)
Reversed hot-key functionality and additional, persistant hot-key. Allow players to chose if they want to reverse the shift-click functionality so that you shift-click to open a location in the same window and so on and/or put such functionality to a key (I was thinking of something like the "Scroll Lock" key)

Ooops

Subscription Renewal Warning ^^

thought it was more days left ^^

better put some good stuff in next patch - or I won't be even needing it anymore




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I need full documentation on click menus in this game from a dev who knows what they are actually on about.