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Training skills faster/boost
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Zuzy Zvera
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-06-03 13:26:40 UTC

Hi,

I could not find this discussed before, although I believe it's low probability this to be first time.

I am sure many people needed at some point to have 1-2 skills trained faster.
I was thinking at a mechanism to achieve this and I feel below might be acceptable.

Below is an example and of course numbers should be discussed and adjusted.

Similar to Neural Remap, to have Neural Augmentation Surgery something that will work like below:
Surgery can be done once per 1/3/6 months (irrespective or surgery level).
Surgery cost is in levels of 1-5 plex and can be done only in station with cloning facility.
For each Level you can gain 3 day of training (10% of plex duration). Level 1 surgery will cost 1 plex and you get equivalent of 3 days unallocated skill points. Every surgery should keep pilot in same clone for 24hrs similar to clone jump.

I am not sure and I do not have visibility how this would affect plex market and GTC sales and for sure this should be analysed, but from player experience might be interesting.

Not following thread, I was just thinking to open it for discussion.

o/
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-06-03 13:45:32 UTC
This is essentially isk/€ for SP and makes EvE pay-to-win. Disagree.
Ayame Yoshida
Republic 1st Fleet
#3 - 2012-06-03 13:48:44 UTC
My personal fear with something like this is that it is, at its core, pay to win. Right now even though you can pay real money for isk it essentially represents someone else paying for your account in exchange for you putting some work in on their behalf. The current PLEX system is fairly balanced. People shouldn't be rewarded for being able to pay real money to skill up their character.

I'm no troll. Trolls make me angry. This however is the type of thing that people need to actively speak out against. Pay to win is wrong.

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Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-06-03 15:49:20 UTC
As an isk sink I could endorse this. However PLEX should not be redeemed for ANYTHING in game other than game time.

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-06-03 15:56:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Zuzy Zvera wrote:

Hi,

I could not find this discussed before, although I believe it's low probability this to be first time.

I am sure many people needed at some point to have 1-2 skills trained faster.
I was thinking at a mechanism to achieve this and I feel below might be acceptable.

Below is an example and of course numbers should be discussed and adjusted.

Similar to Neural Remap, to have Neural Augmentation Surgery something that will work like below:
Surgery can be done once per 1/3/6 months (irrespective or surgery level).
Surgery cost is in levels of 1-5 plex and can be done only in station with cloning facility.
For each Level you can gain 3 day of training (10% of plex duration). Level 1 surgery will cost 1 plex and you get equivalent of 3 days unallocated skill points. Every surgery should keep pilot in same clone for 24hrs similar to clone jump.

I am not sure and I do not have visibility how this would affect plex market and GTC sales and for sure this should be analysed, but from player experience might be interesting.

Not following thread, I was just thinking to open it for discussion.

o/



I have a better idea.. why not have skill books that enhance learning we can have two set.. a basic set and an advanced set..... lol.

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Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-06-03 21:07:32 UTC
Pay2Win suggestion. No.

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Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-06-03 21:31:27 UTC
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
This is essentially isk/€ for SP and makes EvE pay-to-win. Disagree.


This.



There needs to be more ways in the game to gain skills, but the suggestion given isn't one of them.

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Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-06-03 22:43:20 UTC
take the extra time to make more isk to buy what it is your training for. A guideline I picked up is if you can't buy 2 of the ship you are training for...shouldn't be buying that first one (mommies and titans an exception ofc). Always assume a loss where don't fly what you can't afford to lose applies.


Or if you make isk like its cool, you are already winning eve lol. take isk, buy 5% implants. for many skills they are a slap in level +1 . Or if you are level 5, they are a ghetto level 6. got the isk like that , pimp several clones.
Ayame Yoshida
Republic 1st Fleet
#9 - 2012-06-04 11:00:32 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
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I have a better idea.. why not have skill books that enhance learning we can have two set.. a basic set and an advanced set....


Oh you mean like the learning skills? Which they did have.... and removed.... I know they gave stat boosts but on my old character I was 5/5. They didn't increase stats enough to cover what I had!

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#10 - 2012-06-04 11:15:19 UTC
Zuzy Zvera wrote:

Hi,

I could not find this discussed before, although I believe it's low probability this to be first time.

I am sure many people needed at some point to have 1-2 skills trained faster.
I was thinking at a mechanism to achieve this and I feel below might be acceptable.

Below is an example and of course numbers should be discussed and adjusted.

Similar to Neural Remap, to have Neural Augmentation Surgery something that will work like below:
Surgery can be done once per 1/3/6 months (irrespective or surgery level).
Surgery cost is in levels of 1-5 plex and can be done only in station with cloning facility.
For each Level you can gain 3 day of training (10% of plex duration). Level 1 surgery will cost 1 plex and you get equivalent of 3 days unallocated skill points. Every surgery should keep pilot in same clone for 24hrs similar to clone jump.

I am not sure and I do not have visibility how this would affect plex market and GTC sales and for sure this should be analysed, but from player experience might be interesting.

Not following thread, I was just thinking to open it for discussion.

o/


This is terrible. you should be ashamed.

Train forum searching L1 before posting terrible ideas.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-06-04 18:02:59 UTC
Ayame Yoshida wrote:
Barbara Nichole wrote:
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I have a better idea.. why not have skill books that enhance learning we can have two set.. a basic set and an advanced set....


Oh you mean like the learning skills? Which they did have.... and removed.... I know they gave stat boosts but on my old character I was 5/5. They didn't increase stats enough to cover what I had!


Woosh
Ayame Yoshida
Republic 1st Fleet
#12 - 2012-06-04 19:55:10 UTC
I knew you were being ironic.
Just took it as my chance to be bitter!

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-06-04 20:48:36 UTC
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
This is essentially isk/€ for SP and makes EvE pay-to-win. Disagree.


It's already like that, doesn't matter someone else trained the char or not, thing is that you can perfectly start tomorrow buy plex, sell it in game for isk and then buy some toon.

Like it or not, you already have it the pay to play to win, you just don't want to admit it and I'm sure you'll find a very nice speech to prove it's not like that.

brb
Kitt JT
True North.
#14 - 2012-06-04 21:05:23 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
This is essentially isk/€ for SP and makes EvE pay-to-win. Disagree.


It's already like that, doesn't matter someone else trained the char or not, thing is that you can perfectly start tomorrow buy plex, sell it in game for isk and then buy some toon.

Like it or not, you already have it the pay to play to win, you just don't want to admit it and I'm sure you'll find a very nice speech to prove it's not like that.


The difference is that no NEW toons have crazy skills. An old toon is an old toon, and still accumulates new skills at a set rate.

This would make it possible to just create skillpoints: the most valuable comodity in eve.

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