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Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-02 15:37:22 UTC
Please make it more accurate and rename to:

EVE Online: A Patch Every Day


Really its getting annoying, clam it up into 1 patch every week or every other week.
Senarian Tyme
Serenity Rising LLC
Controlled Chaos
#2 - 2012-06-02 15:42:16 UTC
Turds take a lot of polish.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#3 - 2012-06-02 15:43:48 UTC
So let me get this right, you would rather wait 1 full week before a bug is fixed even if the fix is ready today ?
...
/facepalm

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Duma Pengall
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-06-02 15:47:46 UTC
Well that would be a silly name for a game wouldn't it?
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#5 - 2012-06-02 15:47:55 UTC
i dont mind any patch as long as its done via the launcher, i hate getting through the launcher into the client only to then have a 5000kb patch which forces a restart of the whole program lol
King Aires
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-06-02 15:49:37 UTC
Akita T wrote:
So let me get this right, you would rather wait 1 full week before a bug is fixed even if the fix is ready today ?
...
/facepalm



I don't know about the OP, but I would rather CCP listen to the beta testers, do some of their own quality control and actually release an expansion that didn't require me to download and patch 3 or 4 times a week.

But that's just me Lol
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-06-02 15:55:33 UTC
King Aires wrote:
Akita T wrote:
So let me get this right, you would rather wait 1 full week before a bug is fixed even if the fix is ready today ?
...
/facepalm



I don't know about the OP, but I would rather CCP listen to the beta testers, do some of their own quality control and actually release an expansion that didn't require me to download and patch 3 or 4 times a week.

But that's just me Lol


Well then you should work for CCP. You sound like the world's best programmer. You can implement new code into code that is over 9 years old and have it run perfectly first time. You sound pretty amazing dude, I wish I was like you.

One of the best parts of online gaming is quick fixes to bugs. I love how soon as they fix a bug they send it live. As opposed to PS3 where even after the developer has the patch ready there is like a two week approval period by Sony.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#8 - 2012-06-02 15:57:05 UTC
OP must be new to the internet

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#9 - 2012-06-02 15:58:17 UTC
Yeah, sure, I'd also like something as close to perfect in the first try, but barring that, a quick fix of the most egregious issues as soon as possible trumps the frequent inconvenience of a few extra minutes of waiting for the newest patch every day.

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King Aires
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-06-02 16:10:34 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
King Aires wrote:
Akita T wrote:
So let me get this right, you would rather wait 1 full week before a bug is fixed even if the fix is ready today ?
...
/facepalm



I don't know about the OP, but I would rather CCP listen to the beta testers, do some of their own quality control and actually release an expansion that didn't require me to download and patch 3 or 4 times a week.

But that's just me Lol


Well then you should work for CCP. You sound like the world's best programmer. You can implement new code into code that is over 9 years old and have it run perfectly first time. You sound pretty amazing dude, I wish I was like you.

One of the best parts of online gaming is quick fixes to bugs. I love how soon as they fix a bug they send it live. As opposed to PS3 where even after the developer has the patch ready there is like a two week approval period by Sony.


First, I absolutely hate the lame ass argument that if you complain about Eve then you have to be Steve Jobs or the next coming of Linus Torvalds.

Second, I might not be Mr Torvalds but pretty much a consensus among programmers is to do things with a little patching as possible because with each subsequent patch the progression of code gets harder and harder to debug. So Yeah, maybe CCP should hire me, the first thing I would do is make sure the whiteboard in the office never had any comments from lame posters like you.
Solhild
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-06-02 16:11:18 UTC
Senarian Tyme wrote:
Turds take a lot of polish.


Roll them in glitter, easier Shocked
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#12 - 2012-06-02 16:16:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Bienator II
King Aires wrote:

Second, I might not be Mr Torvalds but pretty much a consensus among programmers is to do things with a little patching as possible because with each subsequent patch the progression of code gets harder and harder to debug.

well. that is a fairy tail. Firstly, if you provide a game as a service you can be sure that everyone out there has the same version of the game within a very short timeframe. Secondly, a patch is just an uptade. Its a metaphor. Its just a version tag of a software product. The x.0 times are long over. Incremental updates are how the world works. If you use chrome right now you don't even know when it updates - its completly hidden from the user.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-06-02 16:20:13 UTC
King Aires
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-06-02 16:25:37 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
King Aires wrote:

Second, I might not be Mr Torvalds but pretty much a consensus among programmers is to do things with a little patching as possible because with each subsequent patch the progression of code gets harder and harder to debug.

well. that is a fairy tail. Firstly, if you provide a game as a service you can be sure that everyone out there has the same version of the game within a very short timeframe. Secondly, a patch is just an uptade. Its a metaphor. Its just a version tag of a software product. The x.0 times are long over. Incremental updates are how the world works. If you use chrome right now you don't even know when it updates - its completly hidden from the user.



Thanks for bringing up two points for me. First is since Chrome's release in 2008 there have been 25 release and beta patches. Eve has had 72 in the same time frame.

And I commend Google on the fact that they have a multi platform program running on everything from Windows to Android 4.0 and further more when they do an "update" I don't even know it.

But it's ok, because kissing CCP's ass is always a win win for players right?

Pro-Question: How many patches were needed to make Revelations stable? How many patches were needed to make Incarna Stable? Take the first and divide by the second, then you will have the answer to how efficient CCP is now compared to then.
gfldex
#15 - 2012-06-02 16:30:40 UTC
Senarian Tyme wrote:
Turds take a lot of polish.


In fact, you don't need any polish at all.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
B0rg Hakaari
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-06-02 16:53:25 UTC
I can kinda understand that any "Expansion" might need a FEW updates to tweak it, BUT, what makes this HORRIBLE "Expansion" worse is that they BROKE one of the CORE things(inventory), that everyone uses, AND it wasn't BROKEN and worked very well. So now instead of rolling back prior to this CRAP, they are trying to polish it to perform like the previous inventory.

Next "Expansion" release notes;

1. Break Training Que
2. Weekly updates to fix it

Taste the Rainbow
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#17 - 2012-06-02 17:09:17 UTC
King Aires wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
King Aires wrote:

Second, I might not be Mr Torvalds but pretty much a consensus among programmers is to do things with a little patching as possible because with each subsequent patch the progression of code gets harder and harder to debug.

well. that is a fairy tail. Firstly, if you provide a game as a service you can be sure that everyone out there has the same version of the game within a very short timeframe. Secondly, a patch is just an uptade. Its a metaphor. Its just a version tag of a software product. The x.0 times are long over. Incremental updates are how the world works. If you use chrome right now you don't even know when it updates - its completly hidden from the user.



Thanks for bringing up two points for me. First is since Chrome's release in 2008 there have been 25 release and beta patches. Eve has had 72 in the same time frame.

And I commend Google on the fact that they have a multi platform program running on everything from Windows to Android 4.0 and further more when they do an "update" I don't even know it.

But it's ok, because kissing CCP's ass is always a win win for players right?

Pro-Question: How many patches were needed to make Revelations stable? How many patches were needed to make Incarna Stable? Take the first and divide by the second, then you will have the answer to how efficient CCP is now compared to then.



I'm guessing that, since EvE takes 11 GB on my Hard Drive and Chrome takes ~300mB (haven't checked), EvE's code might be a smidge more complex than Chrome's.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Roisin Saoirse
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-06-02 17:15:56 UTC
Regular patching would only really be an issue if we were still patching the game manually. As much as I disike the launcher, it has made the process a lot smoother (for most of us at least).
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
#19 - 2012-06-02 18:45:49 UTC
gfldex wrote:
Senarian Tyme wrote:
Turds take a lot of polish.


In fact, you don't need any polish at all.



Sad, but I actually watched.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-06-02 23:17:27 UTC
Djana Libra wrote:
Please make it more accurate and rename to:

EVE Online: A Patch Every Day


Really its getting annoying, clam it up into 1 patch every week or every other week.



considering the patcher doesn't even do all the patches.... i completely agree.

I'm all for more frequent and smaller patches, however, the stuff they're fixing should've never made it live in the first place.

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