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CCP Needs to Give Miners a Interdicition Cruisers

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Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#41 - 2012-05-31 04:01:23 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
No one can warp in a bubble you would have no chance at all to escape if you bubbled.

And a friend or foe discriminating bubble would just instantly be used by every ganker. The only result would be allot more miners dying.

It is easy to fix the current problem, STOP paying the Goons.


IVE NEVER GIVEN THE GOONS A PENNY.



Every Hulk you buy is 200m in the GSF's pocket.


I run level 2 missions in hi sec.
I dont give goon smoney but my firends have hulks and they get ganked.


What is smoney?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#42 - 2012-05-31 04:26:50 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
In case you're not trolling, bubbles don't work the way you think they work.

And your friends are paying people to gank them. You sure you want to take advice from them?

Bubbles stop everyone, yes. You'd be watching catalysts MWD to you, with you unable to warp out or leave the bubble.

And your POD, too, would not be able to warp.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

masternerdguy
Doomheim
#43 - 2012-05-31 04:26:55 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
No one can warp in a bubble you would have no chance at all to escape if you bubbled.

And a friend or foe discriminating bubble would just instantly be used by every ganker. The only result would be allot more miners dying.

It is easy to fix the current problem, STOP paying the Goons.


IVE NEVER GIVEN THE GOONS A PENNY.



Every Hulk you buy is 200m in the GSF's pocket.


I run level 2 missions in hi sec.
I dont give goon smoney but my firends have hulks and they get ganked.


What is smoney?


I think its a restuarant chain in the south.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#44 - 2012-05-31 04:35:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpymunky
Alavaria Fera wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
In case you're not trolling, bubbles don't work the way you think they work.

And your friends are paying people to gank them. You sure you want to take advice from them?

Bubbles stop everyone, yes. You'd be watching catalysts MWD to you, with you unable to warp out or leave the bubble.

And your POD, too, would not be able to warp.
You're overlooking one very important thing. The moment the catalyst in your example touches the bubble, CONCORD swoops in and destroys both the bubble and the miner who deployed it.

(Assuming we're still talking about theoretically deploying them in high-sec which is what this was originally about)

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.

Frying Doom
#45 - 2012-05-31 04:38:05 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
No one can warp in a bubble you would have no chance at all to escape if you bubbled.

And a friend or foe discriminating bubble would just instantly be used by every ganker. The only result would be allot more miners dying.

It is easy to fix the current problem, STOP paying the Goons.


IVE NEVER GIVEN THE GOONS A PENNY.



Every Hulk you buy is 200m in the GSF's pocket.


I run level 2 missions in hi sec.
I dont give goon smoney but my firends have hulks and they get ganked.

So they increased their ability for reward and at the same time increased there risk.

At least it looks like the balance for ganking is working correctly.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#46 - 2012-05-31 04:42:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Grumpymunky wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
In case you're not trolling, bubbles don't work the way you think they work.

And your friends are paying people to gank them. You sure you want to take advice from them?

Bubbles stop everyone, yes. You'd be watching catalysts MWD to you, with you unable to warp out or leave the bubble.

And your POD, too, would not be able to warp.
You're overlooking one very important thing. The moment the catalyst in your example touches the bubble, CONCORD swoops in and destroys both the bubble and the miner who deployed it.

(Assuming we're still talking about theoretically deploying them in high-sec which is what this was originally about)

If anything the bubble gets aggression, so if it was not a wartarget, CONCORD would kill the bubble.

If you were allowed bubbles in lowsec, using em on gates wouldn't work so well because of that. Also Dictors/Hictors are agressed when people enter their bubbles. So if they're fitted to hulks, then the hulk would be agressed by a catalyst flying in, and CONCORD would stop your agression by blowing your hulk up.

Someone caught in your bubble who dies, I believe will have you on their killmail.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Frederick Sanger
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2012-05-31 04:45:28 UTC
This is the best troll of the night. Nice job.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#48 - 2012-05-31 04:47:10 UTC
Frederick Sanger wrote:
This is the best troll of the night. Nice job.

It really is.

I love the idea of bubbles in highsec, imagine all the great uses for them. Gatecamping in Jita, with BUBBLES? Oh yes, oh yessssss

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#49 - 2012-05-31 04:48:25 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Grumpymunky wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
In case you're not trolling, bubbles don't work the way you think they work.

And your friends are paying people to gank them. You sure you want to take advice from them?

Bubbles stop everyone, yes. You'd be watching catalysts MWD to you, with you unable to warp out or leave the bubble.

And your POD, too, would not be able to warp.
You're overlooking one very important thing. The moment the catalyst in your example touches the bubble, CONCORD swoops in and destroys both the bubble and the miner who deployed it.

(Assuming we're still talking about theoretically deploying them in high-sec which is what this was originally about)

If anything the bubble gets aggression, so if it was not a wartarget, CONCORD would kill the bubble.

If you were allowed bubbles in lowsec, using em on gates wouldn't work so well because of that. Also Dictors/Hictors are agressed when people enter their bubbles. So if they're fitted to hulks, then the hulk would be agressed by a catalyst flying in, and CONCORD would stop your agression by blowing your hulk up.

Someone caught in your bubble who dies, I believe will have you on their killmail.
That's what I said isn't it? Ugh

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#50 - 2012-05-31 04:49:12 UTC
Grumpymunky wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Grumpymunky wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
In case you're not trolling, bubbles don't work the way you think they work.

And your friends are paying people to gank them. You sure you want to take advice from them?

Bubbles stop everyone, yes. You'd be watching catalysts MWD to you, with you unable to warp out or leave the bubble.

And your POD, too, would not be able to warp.
You're overlooking one very important thing. The moment the catalyst in your example touches the bubble, CONCORD swoops in and destroys both the bubble and the miner who deployed it.

(Assuming we're still talking about theoretically deploying them in high-sec which is what this was originally about)

If anything the bubble gets aggression, so if it was not a wartarget, CONCORD would kill the bubble.

If you were allowed bubbles in lowsec, using em on gates wouldn't work so well because of that. Also Dictors/Hictors are agressed when people enter their bubbles. So if they're fitted to hulks, then the hulk would be agressed by a catalyst flying in, and CONCORD would stop your agression by blowing your hulk up.

Someone caught in your bubble who dies, I believe will have you on their killmail.
That's what I said isn't it? Ugh

So you want the hulk to die when a catalyst warps into it?

Ok, I'm cool with that.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#51 - 2012-05-31 04:50:35 UTC
Frederick Sanger wrote:
This is the best troll of the night. Nice job.
I thought it was way too obvious. Calling "troll" at this point is like yelling out halfway through a c-grade movie, "IT'S NOT REAL, THEY'RE JUST ACTORS!"

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#52 - 2012-05-31 04:53:13 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Frederick Sanger wrote:
This is the best troll of the night. Nice job.

It really is.

I love the idea of bubbles in highsec, imagine all the great uses for them. Gatecamping in Jita, with BUBBLES? Oh yes, oh yessssss


But who would pay for the water damage to the forum Server rooms after they're flooded with tears?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Lord Aliventi
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-05-31 04:55:10 UTC
Pro tip: Move to nullsec where you can have these bubbles.
It's simple. You get a dead end system, ragecage the ingate, and if a neut come in you run to your POS.

Actually... don't do that. If you did we wouldn't have wonderful threads like this.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#54 - 2012-05-31 04:59:42 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Frederick Sanger wrote:
This is the best troll of the night. Nice job.

It really is.

I love the idea of bubbles in highsec, imagine all the great uses for them. Gatecamping in Jita, with BUBBLES? Oh yes, oh yessssss

But who would pay for the water damage to the forum Server rooms after they're flooded with tears?

We might have to quarantine the forums.

Cordon and clear.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

R0me0 Charl1e
Easy A Industries
#55 - 2012-05-31 05:06:09 UTC
This thread is going places, I like it.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#56 - 2012-05-31 06:10:44 UTC
This thread reminds me of a clown car. Or a Guinness World Record attempt. How much stupid can you fit in one thread?

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.

Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#57 - 2012-05-31 06:20:19 UTC
Addendum: This thread brought to you by the letters S T U P I and D, and by the man who gave you all THIS thread,

I PAY MUNNI

Yes that's right, it's the bastard love child of NickyYo, MNG and Daniel Jackson. Welcome to EVE.......Roll

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.

JamesCLK
#58 - 2012-05-31 12:23:22 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Addendum: This thread brought to you by the letters S T U P I and D, and by the man who gave you all THIS thread,

I PAY MUNNI

Yes that's right, it's the bastard love child of NickyYo, MNG and Daniel Jackson. Welcome to EVE.......Roll


Cutter, stop posting facts in this completely legit thread™! X

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#59 - 2012-05-31 12:31:12 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
No one can warp in a bubble you would have no chance at all to escape if you bubbled.

And a friend or foe discriminating bubble would just instantly be used by every ganker. The only result would be allot more miners dying.

It is easy to fix the current problem, STOP paying the Goons.


IVE NEVER GIVEN THE GOONS A PENNY.


For every Hulk you buy , somewhere a little goon baby is able to smile again.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-05-31 12:37:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
Ummm Interdiction bubbles work in the reverse of the way you are describing.

Anything in side a bubble can't warp to include yourself.

They are used in 0.0 by placing them in a direct line between the gate and the grav site you are mining.
On your grid but ~ 100km off from where you are mining. (sometimes the just bubble the entire gate)

SO if anyone comes from the gate they will get stuck in the bubble giving you time to warp away in a totally different direction.

THey would be completely useless in high-sec do to traffic and the abuse factor.
Gate campers would love them say one of the gates 2 jumps off jita.

You will never see in high-sec.
But something tells me you already know all this Big smile