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EVE-Online and penalties for suicide ganking a possible solution ?
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Arcticblue2
Nordic Freelancers inc
#1 - 2012-05-31 03:32:38 UTC
This is just a suggestion about how things can be resolved with suicide ganking...

In Age of Conan there where alot of ganking from higher level guys on the lower level guys so Funcom had to introduce some consequenses but did not remove the possibility to continue ganking lowbies...

Been a while since I played the game but think what happend was that you get flagged so people who hunted you down could get some kind of rewards for killing you, also you could not use the regular travelmethods to move between places but had to use smugglerroutes or do quest to get your sec-status back so you could travel normal again, those smugglerroutes did cost abit more money to use too.
Also could not go near towns or the guards there did attack you on sight.

Just a toughts... maybe some smugglergates should be introduced that cost some isk to use...
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-05-31 03:33:32 UTC
Ban them. we dont need anyt more grieftards

im a pubby and im proud
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-05-31 03:33:48 UTC
in wow theyd be bannedinstanty

im a pubby and im proud
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#4 - 2012-05-31 03:36:52 UTC
You mean there aren't already penalties for suicide ganking? Like losing your ship? Not getting insurance? Taking a sizable sec status hit? Having to put up with so much insufferable whining on eve-o, afterwards?

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Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-05-31 03:36:55 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
in wow theyd be bannedinstanty


False. The good old glory days of hunting people down in STV, Hills-b-rad or Westfall...and corpse camping them until they logged off.

Otherwise, you're turning into a fairly decent troll

Hello, hello again.
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-05-31 03:38:03 UTC
Degren wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
in wow theyd be bannedinstanty


False. The good old glory days of hunting people down in STV, Hills-b-rad or Westfall...and corpse camping them until they logged off.

Otherwise, you're turning into a fairly decent troll


sorry i only use pve servers

im a pubby and im proud
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#7 - 2012-05-31 03:38:27 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
in wow theyd be bannedinstanty


did you get a chance between rants to notice this isn't WoW
Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris
#8 - 2012-05-31 03:39:44 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Degren wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
in wow theyd be bannedinstanty


False. The good old glory days of hunting people down in STV, Hills-b-rad or Westfall...and corpse camping them until they logged off.

Otherwise, you're turning into a fairly decent troll


sorry i only use pve servers
and here you are, complaining on the forums of what the Devs have, repeatedly, referenced as a PvP game at it's core.

I think I have found your problem.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-05-31 03:41:28 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Degren wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
in wow theyd be bannedinstanty


False. The good old glory days of hunting people down in STV, Hills-b-rad or Westfall...and corpse camping them until they logged off.

Otherwise, you're turning into a fairly decent troll


sorry i only use pve servers


There is no pve server here. You should go play WoW.
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-05-31 03:41:39 UTC
Pesky LaRue wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Degren wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
in wow theyd be bannedinstanty


False. The good old glory days of hunting people down in STV, Hills-b-rad or Westfall...and corpse camping them until they logged off.

Otherwise, you're turning into a fairly decent troll


sorry i only use pve servers
and here you are, complaining on the forums of what the Devs have, repeatedly, referenced as a PvP game at it's core.

I think I have found your problem.


you dont unberstand that i am entitled to safety in hi sec thats why its called hi secX

im a pubby and im proud
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#11 - 2012-05-31 03:42:31 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
in wow theyd be bannedinstanty


/me looks at the the URL on the page. This isn't WoW?

This also isn't Age of Conan.

Here is my suggestion. Remove CONCORD from all secs.

If a player ganks another player in hi-sec space he can be targeted and killed by any other player. Suicide gankers just want to kill stuff and hi sec is a target rich environment.

So here is the scenario, gankers kills hulk, corpmates of Hulk pilot PVP against the ganker. Ganker gets to keep fighting other targets until he/she or the escort fleet members are dead/bail out. Now of course, if you're a Hulk pilot in an NPC corp or you don't have any friends to help you out. You're kind of screwed but it certainly would promote more social interaction.

Put a timer on the flag. So if he goes into another system there could be a PLAYER BASED "police force" camping the other side of the gate. Imagine vigilantes camping gates to kill pirates.

Player generated content.


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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#12 - 2012-05-31 03:43:22 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Pesky LaRue wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Degren wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
in wow theyd be bannedinstanty


False. The good old glory days of hunting people down in STV, Hills-b-rad or Westfall...and corpse camping them until they logged off.

Otherwise, you're turning into a fairly decent troll


sorry i only use pve servers
and here you are, complaining on the forums of what the Devs have, repeatedly, referenced as a PvP game at it's core.

I think I have found your problem.


you dont unberstand that i am entitled to safety in hi sec thats why its called hi secX


No your not.

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Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris
#13 - 2012-05-31 03:44:34 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
you dont unberstand that i am entitled to safety in hi sec thats why its called hi secX
No, you are not.

Can you please reference anywhere the Devs have said this, so that we can help you see the light?

Oh, that's right - you can't, because they haven't. Ever.

I so rarely get to say this and it be 100% accurate but "you're doing it wrong."
Arcticblue2
Nordic Freelancers inc
#14 - 2012-05-31 03:44:46 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:
You mean there aren't already penalties for suicide ganking? Like losing your ship? Not getting insurance? Taking a sizable sec status hit? Having to put up with so much insufferable whining on eve-o, afterwards?


No it's not, it's a numbers game ... you can use 2 destroyes to suicidegank a hulk for example ... maybe 3 if they are abit tanked but in general 2 destroyers should be enough.
I'm not against suicide ganking, it's just not suppose to be that easy and now with the Goon's rewards it can be profitable to harrass other players (despite that this is a breach of EULA).
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-05-31 03:46:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Torvin Yulus
Arcticblue2 wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
You mean there aren't already penalties for suicide ganking? Like losing your ship? Not getting insurance? Taking a sizable sec status hit? Having to put up with so much insufferable whining on eve-o, afterwards?


No it's not, it's a numbers game ... you can use 2 destroyes to suicidegank a hulk for example ... maybe 3 if they are abit tanked but in general 2 destroyers should be enough.
I'm not against suicide ganking, it's just not suppose to be that easy and now with the Goon's rewards it can be profitable to harrass other players (despite that this is a breach of EULA).


i agree im on your side mate. suicide ganking should need a battleship aND ONLY be possible in losec.

im a pubby and im proud
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#16 - 2012-05-31 03:47:12 UTC
Arcticblue2 wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
You mean there aren't already penalties for suicide ganking? Like losing your ship? Not getting insurance? Taking a sizable sec status hit? Having to put up with so much insufferable whining on eve-o, afterwards?


No it's not, it's a numbers game ... you can use 2 destroyes to suicidegank a hulk for example ... maybe 3 if they are abit tanked but in general 2 destroyers should be enough.
I'm not against suicide ganking, it's just not suppose to be that easy and now with the Goon's rewards it can be profitable to harrass other players (despite that this is a breach of EULA).

Let's talk about how it breaches EULA.

Go on. I'm obviously just baiting you, but go ahead anyway.

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Arcticblue2
Nordic Freelancers inc
#17 - 2012-05-31 03:48:29 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:


If a player ganks another player in hi-sec space he can be targeted and killed by any other player. Suicide gankers just want to kill stuff and hi sec is a target rich environment.



Problem with this is that suicide gankers camp the station to their timer with the concord runs out (or they would throw away spacecrafts like hell), also some even log off and play with their other toons while the timer runs, so what would stop gankers to do the same with your scenario ?

Atleast the timer should run only when players are in space for example ... and maybe even last longer... (if Concord is not involved).
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-05-31 03:49:34 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
i agree im on your side mate. suicide ganking should need a battleship aND ONLY be possible in losec.


How do you suicide gank in lowsec?

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Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
#19 - 2012-05-31 03:49:45 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:
You mean there aren't already penalties for suicide ganking? Like losing your ship? Not getting insurance? Taking a sizable sec status hit? Having to put up with so much insufferable whining on eve-o, afterwards?


The increasing amount of suicide ganking going on suggests that those penalties arent harsh enough.
Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris
#20 - 2012-05-31 03:49:57 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Arcticblue2 wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
You mean there aren't already penalties for suicide ganking? Like losing your ship? Not getting insurance? Taking a sizable sec status hit? Having to put up with so much insufferable whining on eve-o, afterwards?


No it's not, it's a numbers game ... you can use 2 destroyes to suicidegank a hulk for example ... maybe 3 if they are abit tanked but in general 2 destroyers should be enough.
I'm not against suicide ganking, it's just not suppose to be that easy and now with the Goon's rewards it can be profitable to harrass other players (despite that this is a breach of EULA).


i agree im on your side mate. suicide ganking should need a battleship aND ONLY be possible in losec.
It's really, really a shame that the game's Developers don't agree with you, isn't it?
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