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Clear cut answer to Hulkageddon

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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-05-30 04:59:13 UTC
Don't buy Hulks

Let Goons shoot their feet off.

Mine in anything t1
Don't mine in a Hulk.

Solved.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#2 - 2012-05-30 05:01:29 UTC
Sisohiv wrote:
Don't buy Hulks

Let Goons shoot their feet off.

Mine in anything t1
Don't mine in a Hulk.

Solved.

Well given the bonuses are for exhumers. Don't use Hulk or a mackinaw.

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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#3 - 2012-05-30 05:03:38 UTC
Right. And if your right eye offends you, pluck it out. There's a good solution for you.
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-05-30 05:06:02 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
Right. And if your right eye offends you, pluck it out. There's a good solution for you.


If you can't convince them, confuse them?
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-05-30 05:17:51 UTC
or y'know lrn2tank a hulk to withstand the solo or pair of oppertunistic gankers. No hulk will withstand a determined gank from a group of people but you can stack some odds in your favor.
No one in their right mind is going to attack your hulk even 1v1 with a battleship or T2 ship, that's counter-productive. They'll hit you with cruisers or destroyers mainly. You can in theory tank a hulk to withstand an attack of that sort until Concord arrives.

Do not carry drones, belt rats in high sec don't do that much damage to need them. no drones = less income for the ganker if (and when) they pop your hulk. Use T1 strip miners and T2 defense mods, ditch the shield booster it's useless. An invul + damage control - activate them the second you undock.

Flesh out the rest of your fit as you want - the goal is resists + EHP = suvivability until Concord arrives. That's all you gotta do is hold out long enough for the popo to show up.

It's not rocket science.


Happy mining in your hulk even in this day and age. Arrow
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-05-30 05:19:51 UTC
The moment you suggested doing anything that will even slightly reduce mining yield, you lost pretty much everyone who really needed that advice.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["

Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-05-30 05:20:14 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
Do not carry drones


ECM drones would actually help

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

Pisov viet
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2012-05-30 05:42:36 UTC
There are no bounty on skiffs either. You should mine in skiffs.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#9 - 2012-05-30 05:50:08 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
or y'know lrn2tank a hulk to withstand the solo or pair of oppertunistic gankers. No hulk will withstand a determined gank from a group of people but you can stack some odds in your favor.
No one in their right mind is going to attack your hulk even 1v1 with a battleship or T2 ship, that's counter-productive. They'll hit you with cruisers or destroyers mainly. You can in theory tank a hulk to withstand an attack of that sort until Concord arrives.

Do not carry drones, belt rats in high sec don't do that much damage to need them. no drones = less income for the ganker if (and when) they pop your hulk. Use T1 strip miners and T2 defense mods, ditch the shield booster it's useless. An invul + damage control - activate them the second you undock.


If you leave the rats on you for an hour, they will chew down your shield bar till some point where natural regen matches their dps, leaving you with 10% or more lowered EHP. hobgoblin 1s are are not even worth the time to scoop for a ganker, and a flight of them will kill any highsec belt rat in 5 seconds. Mining drones are cheap too.

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Flesh out the rest of your fit as you want - the goal is resists + EHP = suvivability until Concord arrives. That's all you gotta do is hold out long enough for the popo to show up.

It's not rocket science.

Happy mining in your hulk even in this day and age. Arrow


Realistically a non station dead end is much better protection than any of the above, beyond ensuring your hulk is solo cat proof. Some highsec systems have useful local channels, and some don't. Local is less effort to use in a useful local system than d-scan in a busy system where you'll get false positives all the time.
Alara IonStorm
#10 - 2012-05-30 05:52:51 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
Right. And if your right eye offends you, pluck it out. There's a good solution for you.

It would be but if you listen to the OP you can't Mine enough to buy a fancy Monocle to replace it with.

Then everyone will call you socket head. Sad
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-30 05:55:17 UTC
I didn't read your post because I was too preoccupied with your portrait.

Nice ****.

This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-05-30 06:04:10 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
I didn't read your post because I was too preoccupied with your portrait.

Nice ****.


Yes a very nice nose

I don't know anything about mining or shield tanking and my EFT is pre-Crucible but

[Hulk, Yield + 25k EHP]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

Medium Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Desert Heat Heat Dissipation Field

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

[Hulk, 30k EHP]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Desert Heat Heat Dissipation Field

Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Tallon Sylph
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-05-30 06:05:53 UTC
If you log in to EVE you've already lost. Never stop not logging in.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-05-30 07:09:27 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
Right. And if your right eye offends you, pluck it out. There's a good solution for you.

And if you slap yourself up one side of your head, slap thou upside the other.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#15 - 2012-05-30 07:15:26 UTC
Tallon Sylph wrote:
If you log in to EVE you've already lost. Never stop not logging in.

I was.. about to log in.

But then the PvP on the General Discussion forum called out to me. And I think I lost EVE even harder. Thanks, GD posters.

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pussnheels
Viziam
#16 - 2012-05-30 07:22:40 UTC  |  Edited by: pussnheels
Snow Axe wrote:
The moment you suggested doing anything that will even slightly reduce mining yield, you lost pretty much everyone who really needed that advice.

maybe but that was indeed the best piece of advice tanking your hulk that is , i ve seen in days and i do know from experience it can and does protect you from the opportunity griefer, besides you not losing that much yield especially if you got orca support with you

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Cody Zamorah
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-05-30 07:26:17 UTC
I like the OP's suggestion.
Let's screw those Hulks and Macks.

Mine in T1 stuff. Goons won't put bounties on those and if they do it won't last long since their income doesn't get padded extra from the tech sales to replace all them hulks and macks.

Towerowners use T1 retriever or covertor, the yield is lower but as good as no chance of losing your ship to gankers.
Mine for your own need a bit of ice or have someone in your corp do it against payment and your set.
Deny the OTEC lords as much as possible tech revenue. Use T1 stuff and meta 4 mods from loot.
The less tech they sell the more they will cry

All of a sudden the 7 trillion ISK per month becomes what it should be. A bubble that can easy pop by virtually nobody falling for it. And the bubble bursts.
The value of moongoo is only valued when it actually moves. Now imagine it not moving anymore.

So want to hurt 0.0 as they hurt you? Stop using Tech 2 where ever you can. Use meta 4 gear or meta 3 and take a bit longer to get certain stuff done. But when it's done you can also say it didn't bring any of the moongoo brats a single ISK.
Keep that up a few months, let the movement grow.
The only and best way to give a signal to 0.0 is to hurt them where it really hurts.
Their collective wallets.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#18 - 2012-05-30 07:32:15 UTC
Cody Zamorah wrote:
I like the OP's suggestion.
Let's screw those Hulks and Macks.

Mine in T1 stuff. Goons won't put bounties on those and if they do it won't last long since their income doesn't get padded extra from the tech sales to replace all them hulks and macks.

Towerowners use T1 retriever or covertor, the yield is lower but as good as no chance of losing your ship to gankers.
Mine for your own need a bit of ice or have someone in your corp do it against payment and your set.
Deny the OTEC lords as much as possible tech revenue. Use T1 stuff and meta 4 mods from loot.
The less tech they sell the more they will cry

All of a sudden the 7 trillion ISK per month becomes what it should be. A bubble that can easy pop by virtually nobody falling for it. And the bubble bursts.
The value of moongoo is only valued when it actually moves. Now imagine it not moving anymore.

So want to hurt 0.0 as they hurt you? Stop using Tech 2 where ever you can. Use meta 4 gear or meta 3 and take a bit longer to get certain stuff done. But when it's done you can also say it didn't bring any of the moongoo brats a single ISK.
Keep that up a few months, let the movement grow.
The only and best way to give a signal to 0.0 is to hurt them where it really hurts.
Their collective wallets.

Well put.

Now put into action.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Cody Zamorah
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-05-30 07:37:44 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Well put.

Now put into action.


I already do :) And just like the Goon way it needs time to pick up.
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#20 - 2012-05-30 09:59:32 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:

No one in their right mind is going to attack your hulk even 1v1 with a battleship or T2 ship, that's counter-productive. They'll hit you with cruisers or destroyers mainly. You can in theory tank a hulk to withstand an attack of that sort until Concord arrives.



You would think but the only 2 ships I ever lost in high sec to kamikaze were 2 Bestowers, taken out by 2 Torp ravens. (same guy - he came back)

counter productive? You might say.

R.I.P. Vile Rat

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