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New dev blog: Unified Inventory Changes

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Par'Gellen
#1261 - 2012-05-29 13:11:02 UTC
Dex Tera wrote:
ccp this is a very minor change i propose to you for the UI some time we like or window to be nice and small tucked up in a corner so we have quick access to it but when we make them small real estate is at a premium this is the current set up but instead i feel i should look more like this setup here its a very minor change but i fell this would help its amazing what u can do in ms paint !

I love this! Anything that can be done to save screen space is a MUST DO! +1

"To err is human", but it shouldn't be the company motto...
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#1262 - 2012-05-29 13:12:54 UTC
Cord Binchiette wrote:
Is it an intended feature to "Change the focus of the window and expand all subcategories" by briefly HESITATING the mouse pointer over ship text headings in the hanger?


I suspect it is and even with today's patch, it's still *very* annoying behavior. If I'm dragging something to the tree, I am not interested in my focus changing to the target folder. Not even if I hover my mouse there for 1-2 seconds. The problem is that when the UI lags, you have to wait those 1-2 seconds to make sure that the game UI is going to put stuff where you think it is going to put stuff. Which means dragging the mouse pointer over the target location in the tree, then waiting to make sure that the highlights show up properly before you release.

Now, if I leave my mouse there for 5-6 seconds, then yes, maybe I do want to see the destination.
Ramon Grishnak
Maggots for a healthy society
#1263 - 2012-05-29 13:40:40 UTC
Why is the lag so heavy? Is it because of the price-information for every single item, even if I only move the cursor above it?

Then they should just replace the small price-information-window with a "show-estimated-price"- button and just remove the cursor-pop-up-information.

I think thats too much information to be requested from the market-database. Every single missile gets it´s price-information...
Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
#1264 - 2012-05-29 14:08:04 UTC
My compilation of the (still) existing bugs:

* The filter (for a single window) hickups while there are much items present and you are typing fast
* "my filters" opens after every docking / logging in even when it was down before (the minimize-button remembers it's state - you have to click two times to minimize again)
* expanding the corp hangar is taking to much time (if there are containers present in the corp hangar)
* mass moving items from one window into another is taking much more time than before (if you are using at least one window in "list" view)
( I timed the following with 230 stacks: 3 seconds if both windows are in icon mode, 30s if one is in icon mode, 1:50 min if both are in list mode)
* if you click again at the expand - icon for the corp hangar while it's still searching for himself, it closes when the update is done
* after moving all items from a window the item count and price are not updated
Maul555
Xen Investments
#1265 - 2012-05-29 14:13:13 UTC
Is this true CCP? This idea came from a dissatisfaction survey filled out by people who never stuck around? And was implemented by a guy who has played less than 1 month? And somewhere, someone thought this would all turn out great?

If I face palm any harder, I am going to need hospitalization....
Bayushi Akemi
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1266 - 2012-05-29 14:48:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Bayushi Akemi
Ok, so after patch this morning, POSes don't take 5 minutes to load anymore.

However, you still need to shift click everything and anyone with a remotely sizable hangar full of items is still waiting for everything to load. Shift click is added a keystroke to something that only needed a mouse click before and the loading time is just pain unacceptable for anyone looking to dock do one thing and undock again.

PLEASE STOP PRELOADING EVERYTHING and look at the post in my sig. Having it implemented as such would improve the lives of manufacturers, organized pack rats, miners, salvagers, PvPers and just about everyone else

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1354941#post1354941

Fundamental Problems with New UI. Also, see Tippia's post
Imnar Blade
Caerbannog Corp
#1267 - 2012-05-29 15:07:17 UTC
Active ship cargo hold always visible at the top of the list. Let the rest scroll, but keep the ship cargo never more than a click or drag away.
nikon56
UnSkilleD Inc.
#1268 - 2012-05-29 15:22:19 UTC
ok, so this whole inventory change was a great prank CCP, but best prank are the shortest, when the functiunal old system will be back?
Zeoraima Celestial
Pata Negra
#1269 - 2012-05-29 15:39:21 UTC
Please, bring the old system back.
Mhari Dson
Lazy Brothers Inc
#1270 - 2012-05-29 15:42:54 UTC
New patch is out, no change, still takes 7sec to load my hangar, let's not talk about corp assets. Everything else is still in ****** format. I thought there were supposed to be performance enhancements.... oh wait, the devs just took some viagra before the beer party, I forgot.

Seriously though, I can't tell a single bit of difference pre patch vs post. On the ball time CCP, yer time's limited here.
Cutesmile
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1271 - 2012-05-29 15:58:27 UTC
Please, return old inventory back
Georgiy Giggle
Senclave
Apocalypse Now.
#1272 - 2012-05-29 16:00:01 UTC
If I used 5th division in corporation hangar array on my pos, after closing it opens me 1st division.
IT REALLY SUCKS.

And next:
Before new inventory I could drag and drop item on DIVISION TAB and deliver items to any division of a hangar that I even do not have access to.
Now it is not possible.
And how do you want me to deliver items to my corp mates?

Next:
Make cargo containers, wrecks and cargohold be opened it new window.
I'm botherd shift clicking each time

NEXT:
Make wreck\cargo container be closed after all cargo is removed from wreck\container.

Not mastering proprieties, won't become firmly established. - Confucius
Gainard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1273 - 2012-05-29 16:07:21 UTC
More whine for CCP:

1. If you don't know what to do with your dev time do something about the 10+ clicks to start an invention. At least insert an REPEAT button.
2. Next roll back the unified UI. It simply sucks, I don't see anything about it as positive: Load time - slower, occupied space - increased, ease of use - gone.
3. I want to play this game not click, click, click, click, click, click, etc. (forgot the shift key Oops)
4. Does anyone at CCP notice there is already 64 pages of complaints (at least 90% of it being complaints).
5. I am not threatening to leave the game, i actually love it - but if you monitor my online times: they have dropped significantly. Today I spent for the first time ever more time in the forum than in game.
6. What do you guys have SISI for???

Thats it for today's whine. More tomorrow X

Man, I train for certain goals and then the related skills / modules / ships get nerfed. I hate to be addicted to EVE.
SportBilly
GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY
#1274 - 2012-05-29 16:15:49 UTC
Well as expected ,the update has improved only 5% of the actions in using the UI. Still spinning dics loading masses of items. (Yes guys those of you with few items can use the new system effectively, but this is a long term game not wow.)

Thie UI is is only usable for the majority ini ts previous format., roll it back or loose more accounts.

Inventory should be part of the assets and should not interupt / slow down normal gameplay, where time is imperitive for survival.

Its a sad day to suspend the subscription but its unplayable in it spresent form.Sad
yunafan2004
Nox Noctis Industrius
CAStabouts
#1275 - 2012-05-29 16:41:51 UTC
Gainard wrote:
More whine for CCP:

1. If you don't know what to do with your dev time do something about the 10+ clicks to start an invention. At least insert an REPEAT button.
2. Next roll back the unified UI. It simply sucks, I don't see anything about it as positive: Load time - slower, occupied space - increased, ease of use - gone.
3. I want to play this game not click, click, click, click, click, click, etc. (forgot the shift key Oops)
4. Does anyone at CCP notice there is already 64 pages of complaints (at least 90% of it being complaints).
5. I am not threatening to leave the game, i actually love it - but if you monitor my online times: they have dropped significantly. Today I spent for the first time ever more time in the forum than in game.
6. What do you guys have SISI for???

Thats it for today's whine. More tomorrow X



#1 here is brilliant! as fellow invent and builder this system should have been changes awhile ago...but my concern is after seeing this UI they will make it even more work for us to invent..im not sure how but i think they will find a way to F it up so careful what you ask for...they just might try.....
Andy DelGardo
#1276 - 2012-05-29 16:49:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Andy DelGardo
yunafan2004 wrote:
Gainard wrote:
More whine for CCP:

1. If you don't know what to do with your dev time do something about the 10+ clicks to start an invention. At least insert an REPEAT button.
2. Next roll back the unified UI. It simply sucks, I don't see anything about it as positive: Load time - slower, occupied space - increased, ease of use - gone.
3. I want to play this game not click, click, click, click, click, click, etc. (forgot the shift key Oops)
4. Does anyone at CCP notice there is already 64 pages of complaints (at least 90% of it being complaints).
5. I am not threatening to leave the game, i actually love it - but if you monitor my online times: they have dropped significantly. Today I spent for the first time ever more time in the forum than in game.
6. What do you guys have SISI for???

Thats it for today's whine. More tomorrow X



#1 here is brilliant! as fellow invent and builder this system should have been changes awhile ago...but my concern is after seeing this UI they will make it even more work for us to invent..im not sure how but i think they will find a way to F it up so careful what you ask for...they just might try.....



Btw vote "like" for every-time u accidentally hit "destroy stack" instead of "reverse engineer", this happens nearly every day to me. Who thought that putting a "destroy" mechanism near the same entry u hit a couple hundred times a day is a great idea?

Also the whole invention/RE interface is a joke, u basically need like 15 clicks to setup a single job and since the interface wont remember anything u do this like x100 times a day, every few hours for every lab-slot u have. The whole process could be brought down to like 5 clicks if u could select multiple jobs at once, in a "good" interface, but i guess someone thought "hey lets make a mini click game out of this, like we did with everything else, this will be fun!".
vasuul
BLUE M00N Fetish Group
#1277 - 2012-05-29 17:38:18 UTC
OK supposedly there were changes today ???? really what ????

come on
the corp tab will still not stay open on the first go you have to click wait for it to load Slowly then it slams shut and you have to click on it again
the scroll thing is flat annoying
before it was open location1 open destination drag and drop

now its open , watch it close open again , scroll through file tree find what you are looking for ,select it , scroll back up file to to find your target location , drag it to target location

if you try and move items don't hover a millisecond too long or it flips to that view forcing you to Guess what ?? come on guess ?? Yeah scroll the damn tree again Roll

the file tree is the worst possible system you could come up with
forget properly trying to find the right members hangar to drop something in . cause one mis click and oops
got to wait for .so-and so to log in so he can get you your stuff .as i accidentally dropped it in his hangar .



this joke has gone far enough unified inventory is as annoying a FAIL as the stupid customs office closing at random when you hit transfer and you still have not fixed it either

Come on CCP me and almost all the previous posters in the thread expect better

ALL WE ASK IS FIX WHAT YOU BROKE there was nothing wrong with the old system most of the people here never complained the old system was an issue before

how about for once you listen to the people that play your game, if you don't know what they are saying already , then put it to a vote if you are worried no one will vote put it on a splash page right before people log in that way you don't miss any active players

If you are too pigheaded or stubborn to see what you players want

then once again "what we have here is a failure to communicate " and this time that failure will be all on you
we the players have tried to reach you
but some people are just too stubborn and you just can't reach

Don't be one of those CCP

Don't ignore the majority of your customers

It's time you remember its our game too , and we have been together for a long time

every player account that has been here since 2007 has paid over $2,000 so far to be here
most active people have 2 or more accounts because we love the game i have 5 myself


please do the right thing



N3LLY
Reverberation Inc
#1278 - 2012-05-29 19:19:03 UTC
games still broken

[b]UI IS CRAP GET RID AS SOON AS POSSIBLE P.S. [/b]CAN I GET A REFUND FOR LOST GAME TIME ?
Cutesmile
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1279 - 2012-05-29 19:32:44 UTC
N3LLY wrote:
CAN I GET A REFUND FOR LOST GAME TIME


good idea, btw...
Makaganti
Doomheim
#1280 - 2012-05-29 20:51:04 UTC
Gainard wrote:
More whine for CCP:


5. I am not threatening to leave the game, i actually love it - but if you monitor my online times: they have dropped significantly. Today I spent for the first time ever more time in the forum than in game.
X


Heads up brain wave ccp don't give a fuk how much time you play eve you pay ccp is happy

"shakes head at the intelligences"

With Unity there is Power