Warfare & Tactics

Let's see who has more kills, Cynthia or Cearain.....

Cearain

Cynthia

Yup. Seems like Cynthia - a player more interested in plexing (allegedly) - has more kills than a player more interested in fights (allegedly). In the past two weeks, anybody in my corp has been able to get 20 kills in one night.

This guy gets it...

So wait, do you just have a REALLY limited time to play Cearain? Cause I have less than 2 hours a night, and have only been back on since the 18th from a couple of months of RL stuff. Yet I have more kills than you this month as well? OK, so the carrier wasn't in a plex, but most of the war target kills were in systems with plexes active or on plex gates, or inside the plex themselves. Just sayin.

Garr Earthbender

I wrote up a proposal on some basic fine tuning for the new sov system if anyone is interested in checking it out.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114840

I think spending 3-6 hours a week playing a computer game is pretty reasonable for someone in my situation. But bottom line after the kids go to bed I have about an hour or 2 that I can either watch some tv with my wife or I can go play eve. I don't want to be going to play eve every night but 2 or 3 nights a week is pretty reasonable I think.

If I were single or had a different situation it would be a different story of course. But when you are hitting 14 hours a week thats not really a reasonable time expectation for me. Not to say I haven't played eve that often - I have and even longer - but for me I had to deal with the fact that it was getting to be too much. 14 hours a week is starting to creep up on what I would call a second job.

As for what I do to get the kills I do, and why is my killboard not looking that great I think those are legitimate questions. I have 68 kills so far this month between my 2 pvp characters. I don't fly them together in pvp so there are no kills where they are both on the same mail.

Cearain:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=423582

Cearaen:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_ext_id=687260122

I did catch some of the action in kourm but I missed the kamela slugfest. I was moving some ships that night and by the time I got down there in my cruiser they were looking for destroyers and I was about ready for bed.

As far as what I do to get pvp I am either trying to get fights via the plexing mechanic or I am teaming up with Almity from my corp.

As you can see Almity is currently listed as the top killer on the Amarr killboards for this month:

http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=alliance_detail&all_ext_id=500003&view=pilot_kills

So even if I didn't know he was good at sniffing out fights from experience, I would know it from his killboard.

Indeed he is not much of a plexer. And it is, in part, from my experiences when I am doing plexing and he is out roaming getting more kills that is leading me to conclude plexing is primarily a pve activity.

What do I do when I am not with others? I am either afk getting logistic stuff straightened out or I am solo doing plexing. Before I joined I-law I would almost exclusively use the faction war plexing mechanics to get fights. What do I do?

I name my ship "fw plexxer" so everyone in the system knows where they can find me if they want a fight. I then go into the systems that have the most wartargets or pirates I can find and open plexes. (systems like kourm dal huola vard arzad) I don't always run the timer due to rat aggro. But after the inferno changes I have been.

Just last night it was getting to be about time for me to quit for the night. So I broke off from a fleet and stayed in huola (a system that has allot of minmatar) and ran a minor plex. Huola was contested and indeed it was one plex away from going from level 5 to level 4. I ran the plex without a single wt ever coming in to pay a visit. The system went to level 4. Did they know i was there? I don't know. That is why I advocate a notificiation system.

If you look at my killboard probably 80-90% of my solo kills were situations where I used plexes to get fights. So yes I do use plexes to get fights and I like to think I am actually pretty good at this. But what I do is very different than what I would do if I wanted to plex in order to obtain the consequences.

If I wanted to plex just to plex I would go to backwater systems and run them like mad. I would be looking for empty and dead systems not systems full of wartargets.

I have run plexes in and around egg. I don't get the pvp. I don't have allot of time to play eve so I don't want to waste it.

As far as the stupid amounts of time I spend posting yeah its bad. I post most of these things from my office. I figure I might as well keep at it since ccp is actually asking for feedback on eve. I don't plan on posting so much if they actually get faction war right.

Would my time be better spent in-game? No. This is pretty much a last ditch effort to help make eve something I can continue to play. If they continue to force everyone to commit the time necessary to play the null sec game I doubt I will continue to play.

I don't mean this as some sort of "herp derp I'm quitting eve post" But it’s just more of a realistic assessment of difference in the time I can put into a computer game and the time the developers want to insist I put in the game. I will keep playing if its feasible because the game is something of a childhood dream come true and I do love it. But if its going to be something that you can’t do without committing hours on end and I end up with several nights where I do nothing but roam around looking for a decent fight.

Well I feel by posting I am trying my best to explain to ccp, if they care to listen. I realize not many people in eve have such a limited time budget. But that is because the game mechanics basically exclude people with those sorts of budgets. And there is no reason it should - especially faction war. That is one reason why I think faction war could be something that could really grow eve in a big way. But I don’t think this approach of making it a stepping stone to null sec will accomplish that.

If you think I can get more fights per hour, tell me.

I do hope that is not the 'official' website of the Amarr player faction? The forums look completely dead

Btw, 3-6 hours per week playing EVE is *very* casual. Most people spend 2+ hours every day mindlessly watching TV, family or no. If you're smart, you have entirely dropped the bad habit of watching TV and spend all the gained time on EVE instead

For the time I have I either watch tv/movie etc with wife or I play eve. Thats why I look at eve as a "better than tv alternative."

The Website is the most official killboard I know of. I didn't even really know it had a forum. I just use it as a killboard. I would note that I assume that Wolfsbrigade does not seem to use it. They would likely be at the top of the list. They are really the only major amarr corp I have heard of not using it. But like you say I am very casual so I might be wrong.

Fair enough and well written.

I assumed we all know by now that eve is far from what you can call "a game for casual players ?"

Also, you can't realistically expect to be rewarded for not playing. While other games reward you for playing with XP , Eve (on the pvp side at least) rewards you with quantity and/or quality of kills. If you are expecting to play 8 hrs/week and get the same results or benefits as the guy playing 8 hrs/day, then you are in for dissapointment.

Yes, FW was designed for casuals, it didn't work because, well ...casuals aren't active enough to provide a good environment, so CCP redesigned it. We like it or not, we have to deal with it, they are not gonna scrap all their investment in developement time/money. Hell, they are not even giving up on that crap inventory because they put development time in to it, allthough that's a far more obvious fiasco.


TL;DR We play the cards we are dealt . CCP dealt some cards, we can either play them or fold and leave the table.

I was here to play poker but now ccp tells me the game has changed we are playing go fish.