EVE New Citizens Q&A

Why is it that you say that PLEX is different and call it someone's hard earned money, yet if they sell that Plex and buy a fancy shiny ship for it, it isn't about hard earned money anymore but just an in game item.

Both are exactly the same. The guy buying a PLEX and loosing it cause he got ganked takes the same risk as the guy selling it in station and undocking in a shiny ship that can be lost.

Any item that is IN the game can be lost if you are shot down in space. From frigates to titans, from civilian guns to PLEX.

I agree. Personally I would like to see a wiki or something explaining the dangers to new players even in HI-SEC.

Once I saw a shipwreck that was yellow, looked inside and saw 10 PLEX's in front of a station. I knew it was a trap. lo and behold someone grabbed it, ships decloaked and destroyed them. New players should be aware of these kinds of risks especially because it can be costly and make it much more difficult for them. Suicide Gankers, Contract scams, people who steal your ore just to get you to attack them. etc. People think carebear space is safe, but it's really not. CONCORD is a deterrent only. When I was new I bought ships that could not be replaced and I didn't have a stable financial situation yet. Insurance can help, but doesn't cover modules. Losing a billion isk ship is not the same as losing a 5-10 or even 60- mil ship when your starting out.

I got podded and lost 80 mil an implants I bought a few days earlier because some other corp decided to wardec us. Now I don't bother with implants, maybe when I can actually afford to lose them which seems to be the point of this game. Don't buy anything your willing to lose.

OP, I am glad that you are so reasonable about your loss. It hurts yes and it is a very harsh intro to the game. However, I hope that you will continue to give this harsh, vicious game a chance. It is wonderful.

The PLEX in a can is a renamed item scam.

New Players could do web searches and find all of this out. I did. My danger signals were blaring nonstop for my first few weeks. I read about market scams, plex, looting, trades, corp thefts, etc. One reason I was drawn to Eve was the entire 'mature' player base thing. I figured other adults would be fun to engage and tend to think in broader terms using all that life experience to help them.

If the game is going to start hand holding, where does it end? Will I get a warning when I put the Machariel BPC I just popped into my hold that it is expensive and I might die making it all the way to a spot to place the contract? We already have tons of warning boxes that pop up. Some we can't make go away. Some kill people. Yet, how often does someone say that X, Y and Z happened to them and they don't know how after closing the warnings and not doing the training missions?

You can not save people from themselves beyond a certain point. The OP at least came, asked his question and seems to have accepted the situation.

Interesting that some players don't know that old killmails didn't work like the ones that are generated now. And that cause of that searching ancient kills will give you malformed killboards.

You Aiko, need to train your google skills up to level 5 and after that buy the "Adv EVE-kill search" skillbook.

less then 2 minutes: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13475672