Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is something I stated earlier, whatever the server tells to the client about an asteroid, it can be read from the client memory, and thus is useful to the bots unless it is something a bot couldn't interpretate.

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+1 and a free bumb; this thread deserves some Dev attention.

your intuition idea was at least interesting. but no go.. bots can just use the survey scanner to find the roid with the ore in it.

captcha or what ever it;s called is just a bad idea.. it would make life harder for the miners who don't bot ... right now.. making things tougher on miners would be a stupid idea. With the new inventory system bloat, with the orca hanger nerf disallowing alliance mates from using orca hangers, with the rorq no longer providing it's booster off grid, with the longer hulkageddon, and still no dedicated gas harvesting ship, miners are not feeling much love from anyone right now.

The rare drop thing is nice.. it works on the pavlovian principle of conditioning to make us addicts though.. If it never drops anything good you won't do it.. If it drops every time you hit a rock you won't do it. If it drops occasionally you'll mine all day to get the rare drops.

Small minds... lol. Of course, details like survey scanners would be modified to accommodate the new design. Clearly, bots wouldn't simply be able to use a survey scanner to bypass the game design.

I'm with the OP in saying that industry needs an immediate overhaul. I came to a sudden realization talking with my friends (who play more RIFT than EVE nowadays) that their new gathering mechanic, fishing, was more entertaining and engaging than mining. It was sad.

I can honestly say that mining continously for a year (since I started) I have never thought that mining was boring rather relaxing. I like mining because a) I am a full-time uni student with a busy assignment schedule in which I don't have time to pay 100% attention to EVE b) its one of those things that you can switch your brain off for 3 - 4 hours (example) and just chill watching local and watching a movie/completing assignments etc at the same time. c) I like to watch things grow especially my wallet. d) I don't like blowing things up, I always feel sorry for the other person that I destroyed an asset of theirs.

But in saying all of that, Most of your suggestions, like getting a mega-ultimate etc ore that contains better than normal yield would make my wallet grow even bigger so I +1 to that.

Other suggestions like making it more like the PI is interesting to say the least but practically I don't see how it would work the way you said it. The only way this could work is if that there was permanent/achorable mining structures that could be placed on these huge asteroids (un-mininable except through structures) that were bought from a governing body that was yours and yours alone to some extent (they could be taken over through advanced scanning). Its something like what you see in the Planetary interaction aspect of this game of having gathers, silos that you can see as well as supply chains to get the minerals from your gathers to your silos to your pickup/delivery box. These structures would be something that you can see (and naturally would have to put some sort of defences against rats) and through better skills you can create practically create a whole new complex level to mining of best being able to manage your "mIning outpost" as i like to call it.

Not saying that you should totally overthrow the current mining as I actually enjoy it the way it is.

Feel free to tear what i said to bits :) I like criticism

Duh

Just chiming in to support this/these ideas...especially those suggestions to turn mining into a more active sport, reduce botting, and create something like a Prospecting Profession.
I began EVE life as a miner and am highly skilled at it, but haven't tapped a rock in over a year due to the mindless "harvesting" aspect of it.
If it were possible to Prospect for rich ores and/or lucrative but labor intensive ore fields, and then have the option to harvest myself (when I find that especially tasty rock) or sell/contract the locations/BM's to those lucrative "ore fields" that don't interest me personally as a mostly solo player due to the time involved in harvesting the rocks, but which might interest a group operation...I would totally get back into it.
I enjoy exploration...but don't do that much anymore either due the the very high frequency of WHs one finds...and although they can ofc be lucrative, I'd prefer to find Mag/Radar sites for the quick PVE/Quick Harvest aspect of them. Prospecting for rich ores/lucrative ore clumps would be interesting to me.

/me supporting this thread

Please consider working some of these suggestions into the game mechanics CCP.

I was expecting another stupid manifesto/proposal regarding mining, came surprised.

Definitely love the idea. Maybe needs a few tweaks and details, but the concept is solid. +1