EVE New Citizens Q&A

Now I get it, for some reason I was thinking something different.

Hmz, I think the total of all my assets is worth more than 3.500 USD if I would convert it to ISK and then convert it to PLEX >> USD exchange rate, yet I never used RL money to buy stuff in game, the money I pay CCP is used to sustain my accounts nothing more.

And I play casually so it isn't that hard to get massive mounts of ISK.

Interesting how different killboards handle old killmails in a differently broken way. IIRC that Deimos made it because he was stabbed. (That was before the WCS nerf.)

You imply that it was his three grant that he spend on that ship. The trick is to burn the money other folk have earned.

One thing hasn't been mentioned yet:

Why didn't you sell those PLEX on market?

PLEX contracts are often scams so I would suggest never selling/buying PLEX in contracts and allways on market. Even if you were to get to your destination, there is good chance that contract was scam and you would've lose your PLEX anyway (e.g. selling to contract which offers you 500k ISK while it claims to offer 500m ISK.)

Many regions have region wide buy orders so you can sell PLEX allmost everywhere on market. Of course it would be better to first check PLEX prices, then travel to best place to sell, and then redeeming PLEX. But if you already bought one you might be able to sell it on market where you have it.

I'm surprised it is even allowed to be transported. However, if you do choose to transport it you do so at your own risk. The thing is, most new players do not know about this. I didn't know until about a week into the game and just happened to stumble across a thread about it somewhere else discussing the legality of it.

The question is, when you go to undock do you get any kind of warning? You get a warning when going into low sec. You get a warning when going to fire at concord. So how about a warning when your about to transport PLEX which obviously is going to get stolen?

If the game developers choose to allow real life stealing in their game that is one thing since the risk is entirely up to the players, but not warning new uninformed players of the risk is something else altogether. If you did get warned and chose to do it anyway it seems no different than gambling.

Yes, PLEX is nothing that special. Just an item worth ~500 mil ISK like many other items in game.

But I wouldn't mind having warning for first time you undock with say 100 mil ISK worth of stuff just to be sure newbie knows of risks. But that warning would need to take into account any expensive items, not just PLEX. (Should be simple to implement now that game has price estimates for most items.)

You should be talking about any (expensive) ingame item.

After player sells that PLEX for e.g. 500 million ISK and uses the ISK to buy that shiny ship + modules, losing that will hurt just as much as losing the PLEX. That ship + modules was also indirectly bought with hard earned money.

I don't disagree with what your saying. But new players do not know about this. Like I said I stumbled across a thread about a week after starting. I was lucky to come across this information, though I don't think I would have tried to do it anyway simply because it seems like common sense you could lose it like anything else in your cargo.

New players also don't know that a Kestrel can insta-magic supercapital ships seemingly out of it's cargohold, but there's not a warning about that. They don't know they can be shot at anytime they're on grid with another player, but you don't see endless warnings about all the things they can do to you.

In your other thread you detailed the reasons you're leaving EvE and TWO of them were the result of you ignoring warnings that explained exactly what was going to happen. So, given that, how do you think "Players may try to steal these just like anything else valuable" would help as a warning?

I've handled hundreds of PLEXes and I have never paid real money for any of them - they have no more value to me (and many) than their value on the in-game market. If I lost one it would be no greater loss than losing 500mil of ship and fittings. What is the difference?

For what it is worth, when you redeem PLEX you are warned you are turning it into an in-game item. From that point on, every warning applies all the same since it is an in-game item all the same.

People gank for them as they're worth half a billion each, not because they originated from a credit card transaction (which can't be reversed, so the only gain to the ganker is ISK).