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Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory, as thats the only way CCP listens

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Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
#781 - 2012-05-28 01:09:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
I cannot see any reason for CCP to apologise any further than they already have.


I guess you are happy with your life of low standards then.

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elwood88
Perkone
Caldari State
#782 - 2012-05-28 01:12:06 UTC
-2 accounts.

You took a user friendly system and made it soul crushingly tedious and terrible. This is like an SOE patch, ruining a decent game.

I want the old system back, or the option to use the old system.... Ill be playing FPS games till then.
MegaDirk III
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#783 - 2012-05-28 01:14:06 UTC  |  Edited by: MegaDirk III
Konuts wrote:
More like quitting your job because they instituted mandatory cavity searches.


I'm sick and tired of doctors, nurses and yes dentists not doing their jobs. Cavity searches are part of their job dammit. Mandatory!


Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:

MegaDirk III wrote:

However, both active ship cargohold and current station items need to be ONE CLICK AFFAIRS automatically opening SEPERATELY.



Yes. Exactly like it was.


Well, no opening your active ships cargo was two clicks wasn't it. This MegaDirk is silly and can't count to two. It would be a good idea though maybe, seperate active ship cargo icon in station. Would safe us a click would't it .
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#784 - 2012-05-28 01:31:31 UTC
Jonuts wrote:
More like quitting your job because they instituted mandatory cavity searches.

I thought CCP was downsizing on their development team for the WoD MMO, but this sheds a whole new light on the matter.

The new inventory system may have its fair share of issues, but that doesn't take away that there is a lot of potential in it.

[i]" Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "[/i]
Harry Braff
Knight's Ghost
#785 - 2012-05-28 01:50:16 UTC
I do not have good vision. I can not see the grayed out stuff unless i put my face 5" from the screen. Wish I still had young eyes. It really sucks.
James Razor
RazorEnterprise
#786 - 2012-05-28 01:55:59 UTC
Adalun Dey wrote:
Jonuts wrote:
More like quitting your job because they instituted mandatory cavity searches.

I thought CCP was downsizing on their development team for the WoD MMO, but this sheds a whole new light on the matter.

The new inventory system may have its fair share of issues, but that doesn't take away that there is a lot of potential in it.


No, it just took away a fully functioning system and replaced it with an unfinished, bugged system no one called for in the first place. The old system was fine. The new one isnt even working properly. Even if it has potential, it is very far away from getting even close to the old system in usablility and intuitivity.

If CCP would have waited until the inventory would have reached a point where it actually would be superior to what we where used to, than things might have been different now. But as it stands, they didnt listen to the feedback pre deployment and as it seems they dont even plan to fix it very fast. Come on, *weekly updates*?? Are u kidding me? For me this sounds like very low priority.

Not to mention that i still dont see a concept from CCP that shows how they actually are going to fix it in a way that will be accepted by the general population. Every day people have to deal with all the disadvantages will make it even harder for CCP to convince them of the benefits of the new system (not to mention that i still didnt find those, but thats maybee just me).

Old Bitter Veteran.
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#787 - 2012-05-28 02:15:07 UTC
James Razor wrote:
Every day people have to deal with all the disadvantages will make it even harder for CCP to convince them of the benefits of the new system (not to mention that i still didnt find those, but thats maybee just me).

It's not you, it's me ... and my duck.

You are generalizing. It's not because there is a thread with complaints - some of which quite to the point - that the new inventory system is an issue to the majority of the player base. Players that actually post on the forums are a minority, those that read the forums are even fewer (hence all the trolls).

My experience with the new UI is quite positive. Loading and unloading items in secure containers in an industrial ship or freighter has suddenly become a whole lot easier. I can more easily manage them all from the same tree without having to open and close a bunch of windows.

[i]" Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "[/i]
James Razor
RazorEnterprise
#788 - 2012-05-28 02:25:18 UTC  |  Edited by: James Razor
Adalun Dey wrote:
James Razor wrote:
Every day people have to deal with all the disadvantages will make it even harder for CCP to convince them of the benefits of the new system (not to mention that i still didnt find those, but thats maybee just me).

It's not you, it's me ... and my duck.

You are generalizing. It's not because there is a thread with complaints - some of which quite to the point - that the new inventory system is an issue to the majority of the player base. Players that actually post on the forums are a minority, those that read the forums are even fewer (hence all the trolls).

My experience with the new UI is quite positive. Loading and unloading items in secure containers in an industrial ship or freighter has suddenly become a whole lot easier. I can more easily manage them all from the same tree without having to open and close a bunch of windows.


Everyone who i know ingame and i had the possibility to ask him/her about the new Inventory said they are unhappy with it. I doubt it is a minority that dislikes it.

And i am fully aware that the people active on the forum are only a fraction of the game population, but i am also aware that in eve most people are mutliaccounting and i think that the amount of real people in comperation to accounts is very low. So this forum minority might not be that small after all. But unless CCP provides concrete data here, i doubt u can prove me wrong or convince me that i am wrong about the assumption that a majority of the playerbase is not approving the new inventory.

Btw.: its 4.25 a.m. here and english is not my mother tongue. So if u find any mistakes, u can keep them;)

Old Bitter Veteran.
Scathson
Martian Anomoly
#789 - 2012-05-28 03:52:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Scathson
although i shouldn't post because my sub will continue for another month or so (three months at a time) i did want ot add a voice to "the new inventory systems sucks"

i would like to know who thought this was more intuitive or easier to use

and no, it isn't because it is new it's because it sucks



the only reason i can see that this change was made at all - - - has the feel of something that would make console users happy
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#790 - 2012-05-28 03:57:01 UTC
Ok so after working with it a lot here is my reaction.

I hate the inclusion of everything into one thing. maybe its just that I was used to the old way, I don't know.

The bugs first time were bead. Better with the patches. Lets see what CCP does next with it.

Two new people I talked too didn't have an issue using it (after bug fixes). They claimed it was easy to use and really nice. So it seems what CCP did was take advice from someone who never played the game to make the new UI setup. Great when starting off. Bad for an upgrade.
Theprimaryisthesecondary istheprimary
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#791 - 2012-05-28 03:57:09 UTC
worst patch ever thoug we got new attribute for frigates.
Inventroy totally fuked design, ruins every part which needs to use it.
missile effect : you dont see it unless you pull your camera extremly close. When you fight a tegu or drake fleet , you dont even know if they are aggressing your teammates.
Theprimaryisthesecondary istheprimary
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#792 - 2012-05-28 03:59:44 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Ok so after working with it a lot here is my reaction.

I hate the inclusion of everything into one thing. maybe its just that I was used to the old way, I don't know.

The bugs first time were bead. Better with the patches. Lets see what CCP does next with it.

Two new people I talked too didn't have an issue using it (after bug fixes). They claimed it was easy to use and really nice. So it seems what CCP did was take advice from someone who never played the game to make the new UI setup. Great when starting off. Bad for an upgrade.


Because CCP has new employees to design the shiet who have never played the games before. So they have no clue what the hell they have done.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#793 - 2012-05-28 03:59:55 UTC
Theprimaryisthesecondary istheprimary wrote:
worst patch ever thoug we got new attribute for frigates.
Inventroy totally fuked design, ruins every part which needs to use it.
missile effect : you dont see it unless you pull your camera extremly close. When you fight a tegu or drake fleet , you dont even know if they are aggressing your teammates.

I don't get this, what do people mean about zoomed in. I fly a few missile ships and in missions I can see missiles all over the place (from me and npcs), even zoomed out to where my BC is less than a cm on the screen.

Heck I saw missiles from a ship 50km from me after being zoomed out a lot.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#794 - 2012-05-28 04:05:52 UTC
Scathson wrote:
although i shouldn't post because my sub will continue for another month or so (three months at a time) i did want ot add a voice to "the new inventory systems sucks"

i would like to know who thought this was more intuitive or easier to use

and no, it isn't because it is new it's because it sucks



the only reason i can see that this change was made at all - - - has the feel of something that would make console users happy


I find it much easyer to use. It has sped up my whole POS operations greatly.
Sunrise Omega
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#795 - 2012-05-28 05:10:20 UTC
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Max today: 43,744

Lovely... we went from breaking 50k regularly on a Sunday to being down by 13%. Even with the good weather and the recently released games and being a holiday weekend, it's pretty damning.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#796 - 2012-05-28 06:10:16 UTC
Geez. Some EVE players quit for any reason.

Probably the worst thing to happen to EVE is the increasing number of whiney quit-for-any-reason players. If this keeps up soon WoW will have a higher average IQ than EVE.

Seriously if you can't handle the new inventory system (and the fact that CCP has committed to weekly fixes) then leave. Now.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#797 - 2012-05-28 06:13:33 UTC
Sunrise Omega wrote:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Max today: 43,744

Lovely... we went from breaking 50k regularly on a Sunday to being down by 13%. Even with the good weather and the recently released games and being a holiday weekend, it's pretty damning.



I remember it being in the 40k range at this time last year too.
Ms Smuggler
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#798 - 2012-05-28 10:21:52 UTC
Well here is my issue
Imagine that, you are not the "holy" CCP. Imagine that, you are in a quick fight, and your ships cargo is full off with cap boosters, and has only 15m3 space left. you successfully popped a guy, but his reinforcements are on the way. You try to loot the wreck asap. You open it, Than you wait at least 5 seconds to open, (because it tries to figure out what the loot worth, but who the **** cares at that time) you hit the "loot all" button ...
You get a pop up window not all items were moved because you dont have any cargo space left. You start curseing. try to loot that only one item wich is really worth something, but the gang arrived and you died. Would you suscribe?
Of course you try tanking the hostiles, and pick up the fight, but soon you realize, its a complete nightmare to take out your last 2 cap boosters from your container wich is in your cargohold. you died again. Would you still suscribe?

Complete nightmare at industry
Complete nightmare at looting
Complete nightmare at capital fight.
Complete nightmare even item managing on your own hangar floor :S

So my suggestions to you CCP guys.

This game is unique. I like most of the changes you make, but, when you made a mistake like inventory, you need to take a step back, and everyone happy. Stop playing GOD on us. You just the CCP not gods. Dont let the history repeats himself, like vanity item questions...
Are we clear?
Jake McCord
Greater Metropolis Sanitation Service
#799 - 2012-05-28 11:53:52 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
After spending some time with the new system I have to say I like it better. Its just easyer and quicker to use.

You don't salvage and loot your mission wrecks, do you. I didn't think so.

They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way! Did I mention, I used to live in Chicago?
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#800 - 2012-05-28 11:58:34 UTC
Sunrise Omega wrote:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Max today: 43,744

Lovely... we went from breaking 50k regularly on a Sunday to being down by 13%. Even with the good weather and the recently released games and being a holiday weekend, it's pretty damning.




That makes a lot of alts Lol

I should see more dudes playing around with those numbers but actually, I don't. Are all those dock at station playing blink or spamming stuff in corp/alliance chat, WHs??

brb