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It's the weekend, we won't be able to reply at the same pace as we can during the weekdays.

In general though, I'll happily push changes to the inventory out every single week until we're happy. That's something I don't think we've ever done before, but if that's what it takes to make this good, then so be it.

Colour me disappointed by this new "incarna"tion of the inventory system. I was happy with the old one and the way I had it set up.
As far as I'm concerned, you game developers are doing it wrong.
Thumbs down here.

Oh, changes you're happy with. So much for what we (you know, the people paying you money) might be happy with, right?

What the hell are you smoking? You're representing CCP, and yet continue to stand here twiddling your thumbs denying there's a problem. So, let me make this simple for you.

Look at your forums. See how there's lots of threads about people wanting this crapfest gone? See this topic, right here, where the overwhelming majority want the new UI rolled back? I know, it might require opening your eyes, which may be tough, but you can do it, man.

Now, I want you to follow along, here.

1. Open up your SCM.
2. Open up the commit log.
3. Find which commit removed the legacy inventory.
4. Hit "Revert".
5. Send to QA Oh wait, you don't have a QA department.
6. Deploy to SiSi.
7. Listen to SiSi testers, apply necessary fixes.
8. Rinse and repeat until SiSi is satisfied.
9. Deploy to TQ.

See? That wasn't too bad, was it?

As someone that tested on sisi and contributed to the thread there. What do we as playes need to do to make sure stuff that we know will get a bad reception on TQ will get heard and fixed/ commented on before release?

The moment the fuctionality hit Sisi the loss of fuctionality sticky windows and such where the first things listed. If that had been fixed 50% of the frustration would have been avoided. Even a message that the Inventory system was still in work included in the patch notes would have been better then what hit TQ.

Just to clarify, when I say "we're happy with" I mean getting the inventory into a shape that's satisfactory to the playerbase.

No one has at any point denied there is a problem. The fact that I'm telling you we're willing to basically patch this feature every week should tell you as much. I'll happily put it in writing though (again): This feature is not what we want it to be, for that you have our apologies and we'll do everything we can to fix it.

if this feature isnt what you want it to be and the bulk of the feedback is negative, why in gods name would you waste more time on it. surely it has to be faster and easier and less anoying on your customers, if you just say we will revert it and not waste time and cash patching failure

I have to say that I quite like many parts of the unified inventory, and I'll like it even more if/when it carries over to assets.

However, there's a number of things that need to get added/fixed/adjusted.

Like restoring the 'memory' of open windows for cargo, ships and items so I don't have to reopen them every time I dock.

And having the 'active ship cargo' update correctly when I switch ships.

Updating any UI to save valuable window space is good, but not on the cost of adding lots of more clicking to restore a layout every time you dock and/or swap ships.

But my rage is currently modest since I've got spare F-keys on my G-510 (currently using one to reopen all the needed windows) and I actually expect our esteemed UI devs to solve the mystery of the disappearing windows soon(tm).

If not to Dust 514 for what ? What there is in the background ? Because if not need for any changes for other game part, nobody would insist on this inventory push through against the opposite players. What is the real reason ? At least 90% of players hate this inventory. Why want CCP to push them to this inventory when CCP know that the worst subscriber is the dissatisfied subscriber ???
So many players will leave the game, why good for this for CCP ? Nonsense.
And check those ugly new amarrian ships, man who want to flight a darkbrown sh*t colored ship ?

And that's bullshit. Any competent programmer, even without code comments (inline documentation in the code itself) or code bibles (binders full of docs) can step through the process and figure out what the hell the code is doing. That's what I'm doing at my current company, since the docs are written in Portuguese. Then I can add my own docs.

It's not an excuse. Far more likely is that management had a stupid idea and pushed it without considering the consequences on playability. Another possibility is the need for such a system for console players, but I don't think that's it, since you can't fly a ship in EVE with a joystick yet, not to mention selecting targets, etc. The game just isn't made for a console.

Thanks Soundwave, I think that's what we all want to hear.

It's a real shame we got into this situation, but we can't turn back the clock, so the main thing now is to get the UI to an acceptable level of functionality as soon as possible.

o7
Captain Praxis