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The truth about the new inventory system.
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Hanuman Li Tosh
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
The Other Kids
#1 - 2012-05-25 17:11:11 UTC
It kills bots.

Look at the server pop lately. Incarna had more players logging in.
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Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-05-25 17:11:46 UTC
Darth Kilth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-05-25 17:12:21 UTC
Bots will adapt quickly, just a few changes in their script, some new code and they are good to go again.
We? We are stuck with the system, the bots don't even care.
Diana Valenti
Disposable Spies
#4 - 2012-05-25 17:12:31 UTC
Im glad they finally started to care about bots, but why by this >_>
Hanuman Li Tosh
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
The Other Kids
#5 - 2012-05-25 17:14:19 UTC
Darth Kilth wrote:
Bots will adapt quickly, just a few changes in their script, some new code and they are good to go again.
We? We are stuck with the system, the bots don't even care.


I have no doubt what you say is true.

Best case scenario is that CCP waits till the bots adapt, then changes the system back to something less obnoxious.

Most likely scenario is what you said, "we're stuck with it".
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-05-25 17:23:15 UTC
No best case CCP logs the people who have had drastic changes in their behavior.. ala playing 8hrs a day and now not at all after the change.. then 8hrs a day again.. then maybe not at all when they make another improvement to it.. and tracks down a bunch of the people and bans them, their alts, and their dog.
alittlebirdy
All Hail The Liopleurodon
#7 - 2012-05-25 17:25:01 UTC
ibtl

Also it kills nothing it helps bots all the windows are now in one place...

ya the bots need to be recoded but this makes it so much easier...

This is not user friendly and is bot friendly
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-05-25 17:27:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Hanuman Li Tosh wrote:
It kills bots.

Look at the server pop lately. Incarna had more players logging in.







This isn't really the "truth" is it.. this is anecdotal evidence at best. There are a lot of reason people might be logging in . or not logging in... including hulkageddon and the event now coming to a close finally - and people getting ready for that .. or trying to get the last minute kills they need to secure their potion in the ranking. As for more "non bots" mining.. minerals are worth more than they were even a few months ago.. that will attract more miners. I see no evidence that it has anything at all to do with the inventory system.

The dirty secret is that changes like this only stop botters for days at best..

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Haulie Berry
#9 - 2012-05-25 17:28:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
TBH the inventory interface should be largely transparent to a sophisticated bot. A naively coded glorified key-and-mouse macro may need to utilize it, but a well-written one shouldn't even know it's there.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#10 - 2012-05-25 17:34:04 UTC
The drop in server use happened before the 22nd. Since then, usage has been increasing, a higher peak each day. Peak concurrent users was at a minimum on the 22nd of 35054.

But CCP Sreegs was killing bots before the 22nd, as (hopefully) still is.

Reasons for a drop in users: Diablo 3, bot killing, RMT killing, dissatisfaction with the game, summer, Hulkageddon, and other things. We have no data on how much each of these is contributing, or if the drop is users is matched by a drop in subscriptions.

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Hanuman Li Tosh
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
The Other Kids
#11 - 2012-05-25 17:40:20 UTC
I did not say it was the be all end all of server pop. It is however clearly effecting it ATM.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#12 - 2012-05-25 17:44:22 UTC
Yes, clearly CCP changed the UI to deter bots, and clearly the fact that there was the release of D3 and the beta for GW2 had nothing at all whatsoever to do with the drop in PCU. Here is a fresh tinfoil hat for you and I have a bridge for sale.

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