EVE General Discussion

I'm sure there are people who posted in all 30 pages, but I was just trying to make a point. I don't have the energy to forum whore like I used to.

I am enjoying the system.. It is like windows 7

Greetings capsuleers,

I have just started following this rather amusing conversation. The first amusing snippet was this:



From the Hiro Protagonist immitator, this is rather amusing. I rarely see such posturing, especially in New Eden so this was rather refreshing. But ... there is more!



I like how he pretends to know what he is talking about by sprinkling it with just enough to sound intelligent to everyone except those who really understand such things. As if DOS is the Genesis of it all.



Ah, the gift that keeps on giving. The veiled threat of retaliation ... be warned. He's gone to bed twice now.

Regards and thanks,

Shian Yang

Botter tears R best Tears!

Most of the whiners here are botters, that is obvious.

"Unplayable"

"I'll unsub"

"Game is broken for my playstyle"

What is with the community behind this game? The developer has every right to change something to what they think is better for the interface the players use. There's no issue with the change, everything feels more streamlined and I use less space.

If you're seriously going to shed tears over each change that happens per patch, you may as well unsubscribe without the tears on the forums and spend your time, oh I don't know, doing something productive. Then people might not get scared off by the ass-hattery that constantly rears it's ugly head.

Thinking requires more clicks than reacting, obviously that just won't do.

Just as the subscriber has every right to opt out of anal-probing.


Been there, done that (bought the t-shirt (without aurum)).


True. Once un-subscribed it is very hard to be affected by EVE ass-hattery. Of all kinds.

My complaints about the "unified inventory system" for today:

Shift+Click opens a new window. If I want to move multiple containers from one storage location to another, I can't use the tree to select them. Perhaps "Open Container" could open the container in a new window like it used to (since clicking the container will "open" it in the unified view).

Hover-to-open delay is too short. My hover delay is about 0.3s before i realise that the item I'm dragging is sitting over the container I want (I'm working on a computer that runs EVE very slowly to start with, using remote control software to span multiple computers, so my mouse lags). So when I'm splitting a stack of items to various containers in a corporate hangar, I often end up with the container open, and need to reselect the source location again.

Opening the inventory is slow. I live in Australia, so building the list of everything in every container in every hangar takes a long time. How about only enumerating the contents of a container when I click on that container? I can't imagine how frustrating this would be for people in w-space operating out of a POS where there are thousands of items sitting in hangars around the place.

Opening the inventory defaults to my ships's cargo. When I land in a station, I usually want to interact with that station's item hangar first. Ideally I'd be able to drag any container to the Neocom as a "root". Then when I dock in that station again, the nominated containers would be available as buttons in the neocon. When I'm docking at a different station, those containers aren't accessible so don't show up. I can still open my ship's cargo with the Alt+C, right-click-on-ship and double-click-in-hangar shortcuts. There is no reason for unified inventory to open to the active ship's cargo hold too.

I'll be running missions later, so no doubt my other half will have some comments about unified inventory when the salvaging is done :)

Thank you for the effort, CCP UI folks. It is a pity that the initial state of the Unified Inventory work is so bad that people are actually unsubscribing because it has ruined their gameplay. Perhaps one day CCP will learn to not release new features until the flood of complaints from testing on Singularity have dwindled to a mere trickle?

But, it is the Summer expansion, which is the traditional time for CCP & Players to have their annual relationship shakedown.

edit: Missions run, salvaging done. Other half hates the Unified Inventory UI. Specific complaint:

When looting multiple containers, the Unified Inventory gets in the way: At the end of mission running, we salvage using a Noctis. Due to the speed that this ship is capable of salvaging, the looting happens right at the end: switch to "cans in space" view, open all the cans, click all the "loot all" buttons. At least, that's how it used to work. Now when you click "loot all", the Unified Inventory will close that can and display the ship's cargo bay rather than the next most recently opened container.

Here's how it should work:

My Noctis is in a field of containers. I switch the inventory filter to show me all containers within lootable range. I select all those containers (click on the first, shift+click on the last in the list), then select "loot all" at which point all the containers are looted into my ship's cargo hold. The usual rules apply: simply stop looting when the next item to be looted will not fit.

Remember we're not writing a hierarchical file system management interface here. There are very few instances where you would want to move every file from a directory tree into one directory. Conversely there are many instances where a capsuleer will want to move every item from a tree of containers into one specific container.

You can't play the game on a low SP toon? no wonder you find the new inventory great!

I mean we really know the devs behind this inventory thing actually play the game too!