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EVE Online: Inferno - Feedback thread

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Maldus NiKunni
Mirada Mining and Construction
#861 - 2012-05-24 18:50:38 UTC
Whoever set up the inventory system should be fired......it did not go well on SISI and it is now here and all are bitching about it......the comments from SISI were not taken into account obviously.......this is par form from CCP ...not heeding the comments from us who play the game every day. until this latest boondoggle is rectified i am not using my 5 accounts and waiting until the game is playable by all and not just playable to pvp players. This pro pvp attitude is going to kill EVE in the future. please put the old inventory system back in place.this is causing hella problems with us who mine and do pi and such. i also will not encourage any of the 20 others i have in my SWTOR clan to play EVE also. At least the SWTOR people listen to the players and do what is needed to make the game great for its users. After all doesn't our monthly payments go to pay the salaries of these so called Devs? maybe my 120 dollars a month can go to buy more SWTOR accounts....they may appreciate my money more than CCP4
DigsAlt
Eve Ship Building Inc.
#862 - 2012-05-24 18:54:20 UTC
The new inventory control is useless for hard core industrialists, it just adds time to what is already a bunch of tedious tasks. Not sure if this is going to be rolled back, and I never thought I'd ever say this about Eve, but I'll be unsubing my 6 accounts if this isn't fixed, this makes logging on not even worth the time.

DrivingForce
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#863 - 2012-05-24 18:54:47 UTC  |  Edited by: DrivingForce
Oh god what a bunch of pussies, no one like change, i like the new UI system once i had played with it a little bit, allot easier to drag and drop, especially on POS's. Stop bitching and adapt!
Though one suggest to improve and make things allot easier for the pussies complaining, let us name the silos.....please
N3LLY
Reverberation Inc
#864 - 2012-05-24 18:59:57 UTC
EVE is broken let me know when its fixed so i can play Oops

[b]UI IS CRAP GET RID AS SOON AS POSSIBLE P.S. [/b]CAN I GET A REFUND FOR LOST GAME TIME ?

Mangone
Plan.B
#865 - 2012-05-24 19:07:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Mangone
Im sensing something fishy here.. Or why is that i didnt warp out in random spot when i logged out? Instead my ship kept burning in space with afterburner on. When i logged back in my ship was still burning in space with afterburner and hardeners on. I also got automatic reinvite to fleet.
Did i miss something on patch notes? Oops
Katy Kreampie
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#866 - 2012-05-24 19:15:03 UTC
Once upon a time i enjoyed this game, now ccp once again shoves mostly useless/broken content down our throats and expects us to smile and ask for more, not to mention the fact this NEW and IMPROVED ui is a steaming pile o'crap that's not really improved at all but a major step backwards in ease of gameplay. My time and money will be better spent elsewhere, where i can actually enjoy what i pay for. 6 accts now going inactive.
figa
Sacred Temple
The Gorgon Empire
#867 - 2012-05-24 19:25:26 UTC
CCP, return old inventory style. The new inventory is crap.
And don't smoke that muck.
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
#868 - 2012-05-24 19:26:47 UTC
Also... on FW window, the capture status "Contested" counter is sorted incorrectly. It doesn't sort numerically, like lowest to highest it displays: 1%...2%....23%....3%....38%....4.2%... etc. instead of an ascending order.

The CSM XI Election are now open until March 25th, 2016. Consider Niko Lorenzio for CSM XI.

CSM matters, your voice matters, your vote matters!

MaverickScot
Diminishing Returns.
#869 - 2012-05-24 19:28:50 UTC
Sorry to go on about this but even after reading what you're fixing now with the UI (Unified Inventory) and up and coming changes for the future please don't. Just return it to the way it was and move this feature to the assets tab where it should have been.

Mav.
Sir HyperChrist
Persnickety Pilots
#870 - 2012-05-24 19:57:33 UTC
Some issues, bugs, suggestions of borked UI behavior, whatever. Please fix :)

> people that logged out sometimes remain in active in channels, showing the red offline dit when in the contacts list for hours, or even when logging in the next day.

> looting wrecks takes long because the "loot all" button takes quite some time to appear, and simply dragging stuff is impossible anymore. Don't open a wreck in the complete unified item window, just the simple box that it used to be was quite perfect. Either that or speed up the unified item window to the pre-patch normal container window speed :)

> the "corp hangar" button in station is gone. Please reinstate it, make it function like a second inventory screen with only corp hangar tabs. Most times I drag stuff it's between corp hangar and something else anyways. Shift-open on every corp office takes far too long

> make the inventory system ordering customisable. I don't want such a prominent place for my zillion ship cargo holds, that make the corp offices drop out of screen.

> return the ship that you are in to the ship hangar icon list. Last year captains quarters made me learn to use that icon to open my own ship's cargohold, now I have to retrain again on clicking on the general background to open my cargo. All these changes make my head spin, not my ship....

my 10 cents...
Flipster1990
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#871 - 2012-05-24 20:01:01 UTC
CCP, PLEASE bring back the old ship and item inventory since i now spend over 5 minutes just to sort things out.
It was the same problem with CQ where you guys finally stepped up and said: it doesnt work so well for everyone, lets make it an option.

PLEASE do the same with this unified inventory as it doesnt work in the current state.
Bring back the old inventories, PLEASE!!!
Gizan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#872 - 2012-05-24 20:14:45 UTC
well since i cant do anything in station anymore, as soon as i finish my corp obligations, im going to let the remaning 9 accounts i have active lapse, and im going to be playing diablo 3 full time now. this change to the new invintory system messed up so much stuff i dont even wanna dock in station anymore, and 70% of my game time is spent in station working the market and invintory from the corp hanger (which is worthless now cuz i cant fkkking find it anymore, cant have 2 windows open efficiently anymore.

So thanks for 6 years of game time ccp, and i doubt ill be returning to the game anytime soon.

So long and thanks for all the fish, -21 accounts.

-Giz, WHY SO SERI0US!
Makaganti
Doomheim
#873 - 2012-05-24 20:23:28 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Makaganti wrote:
dear CCP Ginger boss who never listens

9 out of every 10 eve players hate the inventory window unified crap 2 out of 10 are quitting eve how about replacing the Ginger with stupid ideas. hey just throwing it out there Twisted


2 out of 10 quitting?

Ya you pulled that straight out of your ass and yet expect CCP to take your post as anything more than a dumb whine post.

2 out of 10 have not announced their departure from eve much less actually left. The vast majority of " I QUIT " posts are fake and those that actually do come back within 6 months.

How about some helpful ideas instead of lies in the future eh?

Alusz NIVEN wrote:
For the first time since 2008 I have been playing EVE, I am thinking to quit definitely.
Just because of this inventory crap. Nothing to add.
Put the old system back.


Get a clue. The old system is NOT coming back.

So instead of wasting a forum post on that fake leave post. How about posting some ideas?



I take it your a ginger too P either way you look at this new improved improvement, ccp has made a sh i t load of unhappy customers, now you can look at this as this is there game they can do what ever they want well my ginger friend this is not true WE THE customer own this game if you disagree lets see what ccp would do if people actually do start to leave the game.

CCP needs to learn not to bit the hand that feeds them.

So my ginger nut friend; we have the right to whine and complain to our hearts content if we the customer don't like it, it then becomes ccp right to either ignore or listen. History has shown a company that doesn't listen don't stay in business long

With Unity there is Power

Amura Kadur
#874 - 2012-05-24 20:33:37 UTC
Gizan wrote:
GIVE ME MY CORP HANGER BUTTON BACK ON STATION TAB
GIVE ME MY SHIPS HANGEER BACK
GIVE ME MARKET DELIVERIES BACK

...



/sign

All of my words are secondhand and useless in the face of this.

lab man
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#875 - 2012-05-24 20:34:11 UTC
I find it very hard to see that the train of development with the inventory.

Have you fallen into the pigs and chickens nonsense whereby having meetings and mini milestones is more important than what you are developing? Or perhaps why you are developing. Is this an 'enhancement' to tick a box because unless that box said 'stretch the wire thin patience of the most loyal gamers in the world beyond the point anyone sane would dare', this should not be ticked...

At some point, someone has demo'd this and you guys tried it and somehow decided not only did it work in concept but that it was an improvement. I find this astonishing. 5 mins testing this by anyone ICEB qualified and there should have been a list of AT's as long as, well, this forum so either it was not tested, your testers aren't very good (not accusing them of this as it is a horrible job) or the culture is no conducive to people speaking up and saying 'but this clearly sucks. Why are we doing this again?'

In terms of key strokes and usability it is a shocking piece of work.

So please, ffs, try and learn something from this. Stop changing things for the sake and stop telling the community that we are wrong before the community exists of you, your mum and you mate who rebuffs people on the forums for you.

You simply need to take this out and start again. All you will achieve otherwise is shoe-horning in something that was ok in concept (perhaps), poorly designed and implemented with a sledgehammer at the expense of your subscribers.

The change is like upgrading windows from windows 7 to 3.1 but with a nice flatscreen.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#876 - 2012-05-24 20:51:01 UTC
The 2 worst things:

1) CCP CEO took public excuse for their arrogant "we know better than you" attitude and now we are back to Door In Face.

2) Someone actually authorized this UI abortion to go live. I mean, how is it possible that nobody noticed the new Addams Family marsterpiece takes 40-50 seconds just to load a medium tower contents whereas the old system took 1 second?

How is it possible that they found the Manure Depot practical enough to manage reactions?

How is it possible that they found the Code Blasphemy good enough to be used to loot in big battles PvP?

Have they even attempted living in a WH for 10 minutes? How did the Elephant Poo make the testers life in there?

The sad thing is that the coder actually, technically did a nice work, the "thing" does not crash or fail in 1000 stupid ways like some older CCP masterpieces used to do.

But the concept, the concept is TERRIBLE.


We wanted to play Inferno, but then we took a CCP Arrow in the knee. Twisted
Tempest Borne
Sarz'na Khumatari
#877 - 2012-05-24 20:55:39 UTC
Total crap inventory system. Put it back.
Victor Vandenberg
World Forge Industries
#878 - 2012-05-24 21:06:40 UTC
The game is not playable for me with the new inventory function. Just log to chat with friends, but practically impossible to do something else with this. When we have our old system back?
Dartk Fader
Doomheim
#879 - 2012-05-24 21:32:49 UTC
The changes are great, even the new inventory is much better, just takes sometime to get used to it.

The only issue I've been experiencing (and many other pilots) is the chat windows refresh is not working. What I mean is that the pilots in the chat windows (e.g.: local) don't clean up when a pilot leaves the system or logoff. That creates a difficult situation when you are not sure who is and who is not in the system. Note: the same problem is happening in all other chat windows except for corporation.
byron yuu
Redeye Inc.
#880 - 2012-05-24 21:49:20 UTC
i know the new ui system is going to be permanent, but everyone cant yell turn it back we need to give better solutions to this problem. i see the advantage of it and more important the disadvatage as i use it.

1. we do need multiple windows for the ui that can be pinable. they can use the same ui you have just given us that's fine with me.
2. pos guns should be put in a drop down menu like you have for corp hangers so all we see is 1 icon saying guns unless we open it. this would also work with wrecks and cans in space. we still need it to work with our personal overview so we can close things we don't need till we need them... ex: i don't have my pos guns on overview but i do for labs and corp hangers and arrays, that's all i need to see when i am at a pos...
3. because you now list all ships by name not type this must be restored as naming is for fun not so our ships can be first in list or stuck in middle of it.
4. because we can't name our structures they need to be nameable so we can at least put them in a specific spot on the list, labs do this so make it so all workable structures that use the ui are nameable.
5. we need a option to right click and close to view some of the hangers you show us. i have full rights to corp hangers but many don't and they don't need a window they can't see or take from adding to the mass of info loaded every time we dock. i bet this is also taxing your servers as i have about 5-10 bil in each corp hanger worth of stuff not counting my personal inventory that is huge enough and must load every time i dock.
6. turning off some of the hangers when we don't use them or cant because of roles would also benefit when you decide to give us multiple windows or even now as we can shift click for another window and set 1 to show only corp windows and 1 to show our personal stuff.
7. ships in space specificly cap ships with multiple hangers must be restored to the old 1 window for cargo 1 for ship hanger 1 for corp hanger and drones, this is my biggest problem is i cant see whats in my cargo unless i want to have the lag of a window refreshing and causing lag in space. lag kills..... the stacking of these windows wasn't that messy in the first place.. i dont expect you to do this but at least let us have a pinable inspace place for ui and a dif pinable station ui. i keep my ui where my ship controls are in station but this doesn't work when undocked but works great in station yet if i undock i have to change it around.

i have more small changes but this is getting long.
i know we are not going back to the old ui but we do need a working version of it that doesn't cause lag or frustration when trying to have fun.

i already posted my b-ing earlier now its time for constructive advise from people who have tons of stuff and years of play not just a bring back the old as we don't like it. personaly it does have its advantages but causes way more problems as it is now than before but you will fix this if people try to tell you what they think should be done.
i understand a lot of people like this ui so only people who hate it are here complaining and i am 1 of them to but i want it to be fun to work not hard or worse dangerouse in missions or space....

THANKS for trying and i hope you can get a resonable fix implemented next tue or as soon as you can anyways.

i would like to talk about other things but i got so frustrated all i do is afk mine now so i don't even care to try the new missles or use a ship in combat now.
GOOD luck with the fix