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EVE Online: Inferno - Feedback thread

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StarCasher
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
#801 - 2012-05-24 12:29:46 UTC
Unified inventory epic fail!

Put it back how it was, it wasn't broken so didn't need fixing.

Everything else cool Big smile well done.

Fix the Unified inventory, remove or at very least make optional.
N3LLY
Reverberation Inc
#802 - 2012-05-24 12:31:30 UTC
TWO DAYS OF NO GAME PLAY DO I GET A REFUND ???

UI is a big pile of poo

[b]UI IS CRAP GET RID AS SOON AS POSSIBLE P.S. [/b]CAN I GET A REFUND FOR LOST GAME TIME ?

Farnfax
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#803 - 2012-05-24 12:32:42 UTC
The new unified inventory system is terrible to work with. The older system was much much better. Please bring back the old system.
NewGit
Mercenaries of Mayhem
#804 - 2012-05-24 12:56:57 UTC
It seems that the majority agrees, get rid of this new system and bring back the old one that was much easier to use (and I'll bet was a lot easier on the server as it didn't have to recalculate the value of every item in every window every time something changed).

Renaming POS modules was (is) long overdue, especially as we could already name some of them, but not others for some reason.

Most everything else in this expansion seems OK, except for this unified inventory. Get rid of it, send it back the drawing board for a couple of years and give us the old system back.

Thanks and have a so-so day !

67Marine Alpha
POOF Corp
#805 - 2012-05-24 13:07:02 UTC
I dont like the way the items/ cargohold/hangar/wreck is all in the same window. they need to be separate, and they need to remain open or closed, they way they were left, and in the location they were placed.

and any open windows need to be minimized to the bottom of the screen, the way they used to be. not to a unidentified icon on the neocom
Commander A9
Aurora University
#806 - 2012-05-24 13:20:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander A9
As of 24-MAY-12, chat windows are still screwed up. I'm continually seeing people in my channels as being online, when they're actually offline.

Corps members list doesn't lie.

And if you must keep this disgusting new inventory system, the Orca should also probably get its own inventory system, otherwise a lockout from an Orca will cause you to be unable to access your cargobay, your own Orca, and any can and wreck nearby because as of now it's all on the same system.

Recommendations:

-enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters)

-add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot)

-STOP NERFING EVERYTHING!

Join Live Events!

GodsSoldier Aideron
Slam Pig Syndicate
#807 - 2012-05-24 13:25:47 UTC
this is so amazing to me that we actually pay for this service, they don't give a f^^$ about the feedback from the test server, they don't seem to care much about the massive negative feedback in the forums because after this list of changes they say their planning to make in the link below (with more to come) WHY NOT JUST ACCEPT ITS A FAIL AND BRING THE WORKING SYSTEM BACK??!!! or at the very least give us a simple(old) / unified(new) option in our settings? ccp you have something great here and we don't mean to sound like a bunch of spoiled ungrateful children. but if you hire someone to paint your house.. you tell them you don't want to change the color, just repaint it and repair anything broken,, then you come home and they've changed the color to florescent green. your not gonna walk around your house telling them how great of a job they've done on everything else. your gonna voice to them what your unhappy about ...THE NEW COLOR YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR OR NEEDED!! or in our case the fail inventory system i fear were gonna get stuck with like it or not! its not like you have a handful of cutomers mentioning some unhappiness with one of your changes,,, come on, its day 3 and there's what, like 40+ pages of complaints about this system,,, what more do you need to convince yourselves that this needs to be removed? not updated and altered every other day for the next 2 months,, but taken out!! if you have to revamp it to the point where its a totally different product, wtf is the point?

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72779
Dahl Schoss
Suns Of Korhal
#808 - 2012-05-24 13:27:18 UTC
Commander A9 wrote:
As of 24-MAY-12, chat windows are still screwed up. I'm continually seeing people in my channels as being online, when they're actually offline.

Corps members list doesn't lie.

And if you must keep this disgusting new inventory system, the Orca should also probably get its own inventory system, otherwise a lockout from an Orca will cause you to be unable to access your cargobay, your own Orca, and any can and wreck nearby because as of now it's all on the same system.


Hahaha, you are moaning about the chat window not working for what? the last coupla weeks?

The MAC client has been fundamentally broken since the last expansion back in october 2011.
Tends to hang every 5-10 minutes if the window is larger than 1024x768.

David Deltori
Extreme Decadence
Paranoia.
#809 - 2012-05-24 13:37:21 UTC
Chat is still broke and ghosts still show, its annoying ..... FIX IT PLEASE instead of making new stuff that's breaking other stuff
gino valluchi
GVM
#810 - 2012-05-24 13:38:30 UTC
GIVE ME MY CORP HANGER BUTTON BACK ON STATION TAB
GIVE ME MY SHIPS HANGER BACK
GIVE ME MARKET DELIVERIES BACK

new inventory system is just so bad. As Software Engineer, i gotta say it works for windows and other operating systems, but this is not an operating system. Fire the GUI developers who dreamed this up as a good thing!

It should be an option like whether or not u see the captains quarters or ship hanger, i like the ship hanger. Simple, clean efficient.

Having the corp hangers in the unified interface also slows the ability to quickly locate things, as you have to wait for it to load all your stuff in the corp hangers. Again annoying as opposed to being right there when u clicked on corp hangers button


GIVE ME MY CORP HANGER BUTTON BACK ON STATION TAB
GIVE ME MY SHIPS HANGER BACK
GIVE ME MARKET DELIVERIES BACK
David Deltori
Extreme Decadence
Paranoia.
#811 - 2012-05-24 13:38:32 UTC  |  Edited by: David Deltori
Dahl Schoss wrote:
Commander A9 wrote:
As of 24-MAY-12, chat windows are still screwed up. I'm continually seeing people in my channels as being online, when they're actually offline.

Corps members list doesn't lie.

And if you must keep this disgusting new inventory system, the Orca should also probably get its own inventory system, otherwise a lockout from an Orca will cause you to be unable to access your cargobay, your own Orca, and any can and wreck nearby because as of now it's all on the same system.


Hahaha, you are moaning about the chat window not working for what? the last coupla weeks?

The MAC client has been fundamentally broken since the last expansion back in october 2011.
Tends to hang every 5-10 minutes if the window is larger than 1024x768.




Your problem for owning a "MAC"
gino valluchi
GVM
#812 - 2012-05-24 13:40:20 UTC
David Deltori wrote:
Chat is still broke and ghosts still show, its annoying ..... FIX IT PLEASE instead of making new stuff that's breaking other stuff

Idea
please fix this it is annoying talking to other who are not there!! It will get people thrown out of there corp for ignoring people that are talking to them!!!! Idea
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#813 - 2012-05-24 13:44:51 UTC
I own a Mac and have played with the United Inventory with no problems at all. I'm as happy as can be.

Despite the raging going on this forum, remember that this group does not comprise the entire player base. There are many more of us who actually like the change, so don't ask CCP to change it back for your sake. However, I do agree that there should be an option to change it back for those who probably also cry over spilled milk and anything else that does not fit perfectly with their way of life.

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.

gino valluchi
GVM
#814 - 2012-05-24 13:45:46 UTC
GodsSoldier Aideron wrote:
this is so amazing to me that we actually pay for this service, they don't give a f^^$ about the feedback from the test server, they don't seem to care much about the massive negative feedback in the forums because after this list of changes they say their planning to make in the link below (with more to come) WHY NOT JUST ACCEPT ITS A FAIL AND BRING THE WORKING SYSTEM BACK??!!! or at the very least give us a simple(old) / unified(new) option in our settings? ccp you have something great here and we don't mean to sound like a bunch of spoiled ungrateful children. but if you hire someone to paint your house.. you tell them you don't want to change the color, just repaint it and repair anything broken,, then you come home and they've changed the color to florescent green. your not gonna walk around your house telling them how great of a job they've done on everything else. your gonna voice to them what your unhappy about ...THE NEW COLOR YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR OR NEEDED!! or in our case the fail inventory system i fear were gonna get stuck with like it or not! its not like you have a handful of cutomers mentioning some unhappiness with one of your changes,,, come on, its day 3 and there's what, like 40+ pages of complaints about this system,,, what more do you need to convince yourselves that this needs to be removed? not updated and altered every other day for the next 2 months,, but taken out!! if you have to revamp it to the point where its a totally different product, wtf is the point?

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72779




i agree with everything above especially with
"WHY NOT JUST ACCEPT ITS A FAIL AND BRING THE WORKING SYSTEM BACK??"
" the fail inventory system i fear were gonna get stuck with like it or not! " - shameful way to do business CCP !!!

U know when customers complain in groves, the business usually fails shortly after!!!!
GodsSoldier Aideron
Slam Pig Syndicate
#815 - 2012-05-24 13:52:46 UTC
Tastykle wrote:
Hello, just stopping by to lol @ ppl "quitting" b'cos of inventory Big smile




while your lol'ing have a good look at the server population since the patch in comparison to what it was a month ago. at some point players will get fed up and actually move to a different game. which in eves case means less people to shoot at, less people to build stuff, market prices climbing higher and higher as they are now. and an even more empty low and null sec. noobs just starting out already have a ton of shiz to learn,, no way this new inventory system is gonna make it any easier. you will see server populations continue to drop,
Dahl Schoss
Suns Of Korhal
#816 - 2012-05-24 13:54:43 UTC
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I own a Mac and have played with the United Inventory with no problems at all. I'm as happy as can be.

Despite the raging going on this forum, remember that this group does not comprise the entire player base. There are many more of us who actually like the change, so don't ask CCP to change it back for your sake. However, I do agree that there should be an option to change it back for those who probably also cry over spilled milk and anything else that does not fit perfectly with their way of life.


agreed, in addition, when you change any well used area of a piece of software people will hate it, even if the change is perfection, they will hate it.

Come on folks, give it time. Work with it for a while. Let CCP do what they can to make it better before screaming and throwing your dummy out of the pram.
Nightshade Mary
Darkwater Innovations
#817 - 2012-05-24 13:56:08 UTC
Please give me my old inventory back. (Or at least make this one optional, like the captain's quarter is)
Pflepsen
Conquering Darkness
#818 - 2012-05-24 14:02:12 UTC
Urgg Boolean wrote:
Ayame Tao wrote:
I can't drag and drop items from cargo to floating containers if they're nested in the same window.

e.g.


  • pop out a jet-can in space
  • click on it to open it
  • swear loudly that it steals focus and has replaced your cargo hold
  • re-open cargo hold
  • swear loudly that it has closed the previously open container
  • shift-click cargo hold - move and resize window
  • shift-click container - drag window onto title bar of cargo hold, dock as a nested window... cool
  • drag item from cargo to container name tab in nested window... nothing.
  • swear loudly
  • undock nested window to a seperate window
  • drag item from hold window to container window
  • success!
  • buy 70 inch monitor to accomodate amount of shift clicked indivdual windows required


Jet-can mining, in-space resupply and POS operations are seriously annoying with this window behaviour.

:(

Not to mention salvaging or anytime you have to open an array of windows.

If there is some secret ways to use this new system that are highly efficient, I'd sure like to know about them. But nobody from the UI team is in here posting with any insights.

By a long shot, this new inventory system is the biggest F++k up ever! impossible to use piece of crap!
Pflepsen
Conquering Darkness
#819 - 2012-05-24 14:09:52 UTC
Dahl Schoss wrote:
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I own a Mac and have played with the United Inventory with no problems at all. I'm as happy as can be.

Despite the raging going on this forum, remember that this group does not comprise the entire player base. There are many more of us who actually like the change, so don't ask CCP to change it back for your sake. However, I do agree that there should be an option to change it back for those who probably also cry over spilled milk and anything else that does not fit perfectly with their way of life.


agreed, in addition, when you change any well used area of a piece of software people will hate it, even if the change is perfection, they will hate it.

Come on folks, give it time. Work with it for a while. Let CCP do what they can to make it better before screaming and throwing your dummy out of the pram.

Go to your pos and try to use this piece of crap! you'll pull out your hair just trying to reship and reload ammo! i want to open my sma and cha not everything hanging off my tower! PIECE OF CRAP,
Dahl Schoss
Suns Of Korhal
#820 - 2012-05-24 14:12:29 UTC
Pflepsen wrote:
Dahl Schoss wrote:
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I own a Mac and have played with the United Inventory with no problems at all. I'm as happy as can be.

Despite the raging going on this forum, remember that this group does not comprise the entire player base. There are many more of us who actually like the change, so don't ask CCP to change it back for your sake. However, I do agree that there should be an option to change it back for those who probably also cry over spilled milk and anything else that does not fit perfectly with their way of life.


agreed, in addition, when you change any well used area of a piece of software people will hate it, even if the change is perfection, they will hate it.

Come on folks, give it time. Work with it for a while. Let CCP do what they can to make it better before screaming and throwing your dummy out of the pram.

Go to your pos and try to use this piece of crap! you'll pull out your hair just trying to reship and reload ammo! i want to open my sma and cha not everything hanging off my tower! PIECE OF CRAP,


I live in a WH, you don't have to tell me. look at my head! no hair.
We need filtering on the locations tree, we need renamable pos modules, we need a cookie.

But we have only had it for a little while and this is probably the most used piece of functionality in the game. Any change is going to be hated.