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Airain Chelien
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#621 - 2012-05-23 17:12:25 UTC
My Oh My, I can't see why you made the unified inventory soooooo un-unified. Please please please roll it back or let us choose.
Adaahh Gee
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#622 - 2012-05-23 17:16:09 UTC
Callidus Dux wrote:
I want to suggest, that every one who hates the new UI set CCP Arrow and CCP Optimal to -10 and sends him the notification. Maybe they will THAN see, what they had done wrong. Sad

Make this crap optional or trash it at once.



I think you are assuming they actually log in and play Eve, looking at their work, I'm unsure if they have played full stop.
Taka Tao
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#623 - 2012-05-23 17:16:36 UTC
Please take it back (unified nightmare inventory thingee)
Mag's
Azn Empire
#624 - 2012-05-23 17:17:13 UTC
Logged on to check out the new inventory. Sorry guys, it's fail on an epic scale.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#625 - 2012-05-23 17:17:21 UTC
i miss the old missiles and effects, but i made a video, that contains all subcap missiles. i will upload it soon. they are now in thread in my signature. I will also add the old inventory system soon.

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183
Zleon Leigh
#626 - 2012-05-23 17:44:23 UTC
Dovinian wrote:
ReK42 wrote:
Made a couple of videos to demonstrate exactly how bad this is when you have corp hangars and such open. When it seems to be frozen it is the eve client, not an issue with fraps or my computer. This is running on an i7 920 with 12GB or RAM and 2x5770 in crossfire. My temps were all fine and my CPU never went over 40%. When the client locks up fraps does not record the mouse movements so you'll have to take my word for it that during those long locks my computer - mouse and all other programs - was very responsive, it was just eve. I left the music I had playing in to show that it doesn't skip.

First I demonstrate some of the unacceptable lag while simply dragging stacks around. It is incredibly unresposinve to the point of being extremely frustrating. I also demonstrate how it breaks when you try to drag a group of items that includes assembled ships - it no longer auto-sorts them to the proper hangar and instead refuses to do anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hkUk13btqI

This next one is purely about the lag in the inventory window. Compare it to how responsive the other windows are and how ridiculously long it takes to open and close.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwo_8OtEJDg

Thank you for all the information Rek! I'll be passing it along.


You're going to pass it on? WTH? CCP Dev's loose the ability to read? Oh wait - maybe they did. Explains the lack of attention paid to Sisi feedback.

Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital. CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day

PvP's latest  incentive program ** Unified Inventory **  'Cause you gotta kill something after trying to use it
Sajuuk Brutor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#627 - 2012-05-23 17:44:24 UTC
CCP please make it an option in settings to use the old inventory, and new inventory. This will make everyone HAPPPY!!! Big smile

BTW the new inventory system makes hoarders in this game freak out.
Victor Vandenberg
World Forge Industries
#628 - 2012-05-23 17:46:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Victor Vandenberg
The new inventory and ships management interface is extremely uncomfortable. CCP, please return back the old one which was much more convenient. Or may be provide for an option to choose for those who like more the new one.
Emrys Ap'Morgravaine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#629 - 2012-05-23 17:58:40 UTC
Just to detract from the inventory raging for a moment.


But could someone at CCP possibly deign us with an answer and tell us what the hell you did to channel listings?

I've had it all day today between socket closed issues (posted that particular complaint elsewhere).

I log in, and I see names listed in various channel's who aren't logged in, and who haven't been logged in for perhaps 2 or 3 hours inbetween which time I've had multiple disconnects due to socket closed.

I'm aware that I'm not the only one.

Who's been tinkering with live code again? (see yesterdays thread about module damage...)
Desmont McCallock
#630 - 2012-05-23 18:02:19 UTC
For God sake fix the text in the newsletter. Copy-pasting isn't a bad technic but at least get in trouble to correct the expansion name.
Kemal Ataturk
Antisocial Mental Disorder
#631 - 2012-05-23 18:03:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Kemal Ataturk
Callidus Dux wrote:
I want to suggest, that every one who hates the new UI set CCP Arrow and CCP Optimal to -10 and sends him the notification. Maybe they will THAN see, what they had done wrong. Sad

Make this crap optional or trash it at once.


CCP Punkturis too, she seems to find it funny only thing she posts as answers is some "Lol" icons.
Legia BIH
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#632 - 2012-05-23 18:13:15 UTC
New inventory is worst ting ccp done in last few patches , pls return old one !
WolfSchwarzMond
Doomheim
#633 - 2012-05-23 18:27:33 UTC
Well it seems they're going to COMPOUND their mistake.
THIS is how they answer the issues.....a new patch.

Unified Inventory

Fixed an issue where the new Unified Inventory would reopen every time a character jumped, docked, undocked or otherwise performed a session change.
Inventory window locations that are still accessible between docking and undocking will now remain open. For example a ships Drone Bay, if opened in a separate window.
Fixed an issue where players could not edit their Smart Filters.
Fixed an issue where Corporation hangars would not load correctly.
Attempting to move mixed groups of items into hangar locations that can only accept a specific item type, will now transfer the items allowed.


PLEASE stop putting band-aids on a shotgun wound. LET US CHOOSE.
Lord Addi
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#634 - 2012-05-23 18:33:33 UTC
... inventory is now gay... with the exception of travelling 2 jumps in a cargo ship to pick up a modual i just skilled i havnt done anything, havnt seen any of the missile updates or anything cos i just dont have have the energy after work to fuk about trying to figure the inventory...

my home station has like 20 ships and 18 station containers in... finding things is a nightmare. all my ships have odd random names and because i cant see a image it took me ages to try and remember what i called my cargo ship..

WHY would you add this without adding a option to turn it off!?
Crazy Jade
xLegion of the dammedx.
Moose Alliance
#635 - 2012-05-23 18:36:07 UTC
Inventory shyte is a huge floppy hairy bawlbag
Lien Thims
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#636 - 2012-05-23 18:45:02 UTC
I hate to detract from the ramblings about the new inventory system but for us 0.0 can you please sort oput the channels so when you log off or quit your name acyaully diappears from local and doesnt stay there until DT I have had players that are not online stay in local for over 12 hours.

Not just local this seem to effrect most other channels as well such as fleets.
Coreemo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#637 - 2012-05-23 18:53:58 UTC
Revert the inventory. The new inventory system is much more cumbersome, not to mention a bit buggy. I can't even rapid loot mission cargo containers anymore
Hun Endorfin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#638 - 2012-05-23 18:54:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Hun Endorfin
Hi
Some interesting bugs:
-chat bugs(invisible chat OR visible offline characters-i know, it has been written)
-Missiles are unsyncronized( dmg faster than the missile itself= missiles going with the basic skills, dmg with the skills.
e.g: x ship destroyed at hmm 14:50:10, missile impact occured at 14:50:12-20. Shocked )
-inventory is very laggy, and eating my HW

anyway i like the new km system, the new missile effects(apart from the unsync.) etc.

oh yes: new inventory is almost good..idea was good , implement was rly bad. make an ingame total commander, or something like that.) :)

ohh and for fun plz take back the old torpedo bang effect or something like that. we need fireworks! :D
Kali Mezuko
Artificial Stupidity
#639 - 2012-05-23 18:58:37 UTC
The new inventory system makes even simple jobs more difficult.

Please just put the old item and ship hangar buttons back on the toolbar.
Diemos Hiaraki
Septentrion
#640 - 2012-05-23 19:00:34 UTC
Not happy at all. Pre inferno was stable - I'm getting BSOD all the damn time now.

UI - no filter for mission items. Needs a separate window for cargo of current ship open at same time to be useful anyway. I don't like it at all.

R&D - changes to R&D have hurt enough to view these changes as nothing but an insult to younger players. Changes to R&D hidden away in a blog about faction warfare so few knew about it until after introduction - smooth move there. So now it's harder to get the kit I'd need to get a T2 BPC, meanwhile there are old players with T2 BPOs laughing their asses off. Why are T2 BPOs still in the game?

The rest of the changes just look like a massive pain in the arse to a younger character.

Will probably unsub like I did last year (and I guess you'll lose another 10,000 subs too.) The game still demands specialisation to compete with oldfags, and frankly that's boring waiting to train for something that you have no guarantee of enjoyment piloting. Looks to me that the price of T2 stuff is going to go up dramatically too, and since the first rule of EVE is "don't fly what you can't afford to lose;" it appears I'll never fly a decent ship into combat, and honestly, after this update I'm less inclined to fight than I was before.

At least it's sunny - I might as well go outside and do something else.