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Well having read (and posted in) both the issue and feedback threads, i think i can safely say a few things

1) We all know the new inventory is crap, so do CCP
2) CCP ether dont care, or have the wrong dev team watching the forums (both?)


3) Its time for Jita protests again... Anyone?

The uniformed cargo windows, aren't very fun. more confusing, takes up alotta space on my screen (i'm on a wide screen too 19in)!

they are harder to read. most things are washed out and you can't see them. their not remembering their position, size, and state.

I hoep you guys change them back! hehe.

Better , for example :


Shift-clicked - ships cargo , this stays when dock/undock/session changes (nice!)
Shift-clicked - Items Hangar , position and size are remembered , but window dissapears when docking/re-docking .



But even having my ships cargo window open at all times makes some tasks playable (for me)

Already did yesterday, but not too massive. However everyone was in terrible lags and I personally felt like in a submarine: everything outside my ship's armor frozen and I just reloaded and turned on rails.

speak for yourself

i tried, i used the new system all yesterday got the hang of it set up filters etc and i still didn't like it but i felt like i could use it

then i logged off

i log in today and everything i did yesterday? gone, and now everytime i dock/undock the stupid sidebar is condensed to the point i can only see the arrows for the "root"

sorry but i'm a science and indy guy, inventory management is kinda central to what i do and this has just killed it for me, unless this.. thing? is seriously reworked or i'm given the better option of disabling it this is just going to kill my enjoyment of the game so for the first time since i made the account on 21/1/05 i'm genuinely thinking about letting this account and my others lapse

here are my main problems:

my "home" station has 24 containers and 18 ships in it, before the "upgrade" (as the GMs keep putting it) i docked, opened what i needed and job done, ZERO lag, no waiting for a loading wheel, perfect functionality, now everytime i dock i get 4 seconds of black box waiting for it to populate with a lot of information and submenus i simply do not need all the time

before the "upgrade" you pin a window? it stays there, it doesn't resize, it doesn't vanish when you dock or undock, now? it does whatever the hell it wants pinned or not

before the "upgrade" my ships cargo was easily accessed because it was pinned in place above my chat window (which i keep in the lower left corner) it was low impact, nice and simple now? dock and undock and it vanishes, or (and this is my favorite) after being told by a GM what amounted to "SHIFT CLICK FIXES ALL" i shift click, put my ships cargo there and undock, success! it stays in place, so i dock.. and my entire inventory decides to open up in a 4x1 icon large window.. awesome!

the old version? easy to see different ship types by icon, instantly upon clicking ships the new "improved" one? sure no need to click on ships anymore.. you just have to find the one you like in the list, now that's well enough.. except you have to make your sidebar wide enough to see the type of ship at the end which means?
so. much. wasted. space.

i get greeted with this everytime i open it after docking (yes I've cleared cache) which is fantastic, it doesn't matter how i resize it or if i pin it, GREAT another window that ignored being pinned - not like you were told that players actually like being able to pin things last time when you removed it was it?

speaking of things you removed, got heat for and then put back, anybody else remember how much heat you guys got for removing the whole double click = ship cargo while docked? well looks like thats gone again thanks to the new "improved" system

i'm not even going to get started on it picking up every single thing in a POS that has a cargobay, that you can't remove things ot set your own folders up in space or that just by it's very design it's huge compared to the old system


TLDR: this inventory system is a poorly designed rip off of file explorer, poorly implemented, with the players ignored YET AGAIN by somebody up in CCP, (did you people just completely ignore the whole "release it when it's ready and not before" thing the players tried to hammer home after WiS?) and if it isn't at the very least fixed or preferably made optional i seriously doubt i'll be renewing any of my subs. and no you can't have my stuff.

Additional note: i can't be the only person concerned that this seems to be a massive backslide to the mentality that was being thrown around at incarna? it's put on test servers, slated, devs/management ignore the complaints / bugs / genuine problems and then force everybody to use it regardless?

Loading up the rainbow lazzzoorr crystals as we speak

I'm going to go against the crowd and say I actually like the new inventory. Its not perfect yet, but with some more tweaks it'll be great. Despite having a large screen, I hate having heaps of windows up... and inventory windows were my biggest gripe. The left treeview is a feature I've wanted for a LONG time. Filters are an added bonus.


I think players need to understand that changes and new features will never be perfect on launch day. New stuff needs 'teething' time... time to get additional feedback and time to fix additional issues and concerns. CCP isn't out to ruin features and make players angry, they are intending to do the exact opposite. I can say, when you happily release something and feel that your 'consumers' will enjoy it also... then see them raging and hating it can be quite disheartening. What developers really want (and are more inclined to listen to) is feedback offered without all the hate/abuse.


For me, these would be good improvements:

• Add a setting to 'open containers in new window'.
• Add a setting to show/hide treeview.
• Locate 'Item Hanger' above 'Ship Hanger'.
• If an inventory window is open (e.g Cargohold) and the main inventory window is closed, you can't open the main inventory window back up again. You have to close all separate inventory windows first.

Oh and, this may be a bug. I attempted to stack a drone in a full drone bay, the error however says I don't have enough space to perform the action. It should really say, it can't be stacked as no more 'space' is actually being used.

Amazing upgrade to the Merlin. Confused though. CCP spends all this time making the missile systems incredible but then takes all missile slots off the Merlin. I understand that people wanted a gun boat but why not give them the option? Let the Merlin have 3 high slots - 3 missile slots - 3 turret slots. That gives Caldari pilots a choice between their missiles and turrets.

the inventory system is horrible.

CCP should've limited it to err... inventory

not the cargo containers/wrecks floating in space, POS structures or ship's cargo hold.
cause those got nothing to do with inventory

inventory stops at the station