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EVE Online: Inferno - Feedback thread

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Bitslix
Lolsec Fockel
#41 - 2012-05-22 14:38:47 UTC
Thanks for listening to our feedback on the Unified Inventory.
Isabienij
Project X3
Silent Infinity
#42 - 2012-05-22 14:40:49 UTC
The new inventory system was clearly not designed for players living out of a POS.

Browsing through 50+ pos mods just to find the hangar you're looking for is not what i want to spend
brainpower or gametime on.

Usability in that regard is hugely reduced.

One suggestions; allow drag drop of favorite often used hangars or hangar types into a sort of "favorite" area
Goyathla
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#43 - 2012-05-22 14:41:36 UTC
Chribba wrote:

Also, why remove active ship from your hangar? Where are the old cargo container windows?
/c


Biggest Problem - Active ship not in the hangar was a bad idea, makes many quick tasks of old slow and annoying, two clicks now four or more. Who's idea was this?

Also when looking at the inventories I like the new filters you can setup, but the search tool shouldn't say "filter" too, it's a search tool not a filter tool.

Also lots of wasted space at the top and bottom of each inventory window now, it's nice to have the number of items, the cash estimated value, the value and such but the massive blank space next to these tiny details is annoying.
It's just a per peeve but It would have been nice to be able to either hide these details or to move them around so they were all on one line. The volume and filter at the top could have been moved up with the list, details and icons option to cut half that wasted space, and the number of items and estimated value could have gone together at the bottom to chop the waste there. It's not a big deal if you only want one window but I like to fill my screen with all kinds of stuff and every bit of space wasted adds up.
Clayton Dozer
#44 - 2012-05-22 14:43:28 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Clayton Dozer wrote:
lol i can war dec my own alliance for 50 million isk guess they didnt test that feature


hey thanks, I'll look into it

also, don't do it? Blink


i would be fighting myself so wouldnt be much of a issue and the kill report would be funny as hell

i think im trolling this forum post correctly if im not then please shut up..
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#45 - 2012-05-22 14:43:38 UTC
Clayton Dozer wrote:
lol i can war dec my own alliance for 50 million isk guess they didnt test that feature


hmm did you test it the whole way? I get a message telling me I can't do that Blink it's actually a pretty good message if you check it out

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CCP Bella Bee
C C P
C C P Alliance
#46 - 2012-05-22 14:44:31 UTC
Dinta Zembo wrote:
CCP Bella Bee wrote:
Dinta Zembo wrote:


Yeh apart from the fact that it won't remember your open windows.

Try clearing your windows settings and see if that fixes it. We are investigating why this is happening, it is not intended.



Didn't work.

Ok, thanks for reporting, we're still looking into this.
Wellygold
Jupiter Mining PLC
#47 - 2012-05-22 14:44:41 UTC
The new inventory system is totally unworkable. Please stop fixing what aint broke
Evilynthea
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2012-05-22 14:48:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Evilynthea
Ishtvaan wrote:
Evilynthea wrote:
Angeliq wrote:
Dafawk? What's wrong with you ppl? Why did you change the Items and Hangar windows? They were just fine!

How can I see the content of my ship's cargo and station items + other content from containers or other ship's cargo holds, ALL at the same time?
What if I like to keep my items organized in containers?

This Inventory crap does not help.
ROLL IT BACK!



This. Totally unplayable if you keep any amounts of inventory that you want to shift between containers/hangars/ships/corp hangars.




Have you tried right - click and select "open in new window" or the shortcut Shift+Click? Dunno if that's what you mean :)

I must say i like it!



I have, however the window does not stay in position. It reverts back. I for one do not wish to set up all my windows every time I re-dock or enter the game.
Flying Squidwolf
Indigo Media
#49 - 2012-05-22 14:51:04 UTC
Normally I don't use the EVE Forums but I just wanted to rant about how ridiculously stupid the unified inventory is. CCP have basically turned it into a file browser.....
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#50 - 2012-05-22 14:53:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
@ Unified Inventory -

I LOVE IT, Thank you.



@ Those who Do not like Unified Inventory.

ON THE TOP LEFT, there are a set of LEFT POINTING CHEVRONS. Click on this, Unified Inventory Index goes away, and you never have to use it again.


EDIT : Major bug was an oversight on my part.

Where I am.
gfldex
#51 - 2012-05-22 14:54:41 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Clayton Dozer wrote:
lol i can war dec my own alliance for 50 million isk guess they didnt test that feature


hey thanks, I'll look into it


While you are on it, can you ask a game designer if it was intentional to declare wardecs spillovers of alliance leaving corps (that happened today) as being forcefully mutual? (Petition spam incoming!)

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Flying Squidwolf
Indigo Media
#52 - 2012-05-22 14:57:07 UTC
Isabienij wrote:
The new inventory system was clearly not designed for players living out of a POS.


I'm not exactly sure who the new inventory is designed for.
Gabrielle d'Robinette
L'Orchestre
#53 - 2012-05-22 14:58:00 UTC
Dinta Zembo wrote:
CCP Bella Bee wrote:
Dinta Zembo wrote:


Yeh apart from the fact that it won't remember your open windows.

Try clearing your windows settings and see if that fixes it. We are investigating why this is happening, it is not intended.



Didn't work.
Nope. All open windows (cargo, drones, etc.) close except one each session change. And the one that stays open reverts to default showing the (to me) confusing tree list. On top of that it is completely random what stays open, sometimes the dronebay, sometimes the cargohold, etc.

Other complaints about the new way windows behave:
- I have to use an extra keypress (shift) to open an extra window. Previous I just had to click. Now I need one hand at the mouse AND one at the keyboard.
- Open dronebay option has vanished from the right click menu on my active ship. I now open it via the fitting screen, but that workarround is a bit awkward. And even then I have to hold shift to not overwrite the existing open windows......

And why is my active ship not shown in the Ships tab in the Station Services window?!?
wilkins1950
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-05-22 14:58:16 UTC
sigh great work on missiles new SB hulls and the general improvement to every thing but you need to put back inventory to what it was before inferno at least until you can find some way to have them both work together (maybe a separate window where you can look at your inventory and see prices and sorting as well as having ease of use for organisation and management like the old version) and please fix the color schemes from making it hard to read as that ifs rather annoying (changed them for now but would like to change back A.S.A.P)

Three things about me,

  1. I hate Feroxes
  2. Caldari FTW
  3. NEVER ignore the frigates EVER!!!
Flying Squidwolf
Indigo Media
#55 - 2012-05-22 14:58:30 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:

@ Those who Do not like Unified Inventory.

ON THE TOP LEFT, there are a set of LEFT POINTING CHEVRONS. Click on this, Unified Inventory Index goes away, and you never have to use it again.


Still doesn't make the fact that there is now only ONE window for EVERYTHING now. Cargohold/Hangar/Ship Hangar/Corp Hangar/Other Ship Cargoholds all in ONE window....

>_>
Morkus Rex
Purarg
#56 - 2012-05-22 14:59:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Morkus Rex
-1 Having all my items organized in containers, this Inventory crap is bloody awfull!
-1 Removing my active ship from hangar

Nothing really exciting in this expansion, it is mostly a tweak of some old stuff, and not introducing much new ...
but I'm not surprised, it's been like that almost since Revelations ... Lol

The best part of Eve is still corp chat Blink

Nobody cares about what you care about!
MaverickScot
Diminishing Returns.
#57 - 2012-05-22 14:59:59 UTC
I have never had a reason to complain about EvE until now.

This new Unified Inventory is awful. I have been playing with it in SiSi and could not get used to it. It seems to take forever to move items around never mind open two or three windows at once. They don't appear to stay either once you have Shift+Clicked and then closed them. If you open them again you have to Shift+Click again. I used to have container with different locations depending what I wanted as well they were ordered differently. Some were in Quantity order some were in Type order. If you have a large amount of ships there is a lot of scrolling involved too.

I do not see a need for this type of over clicking when I could get to what i wanted with very little. I like the idea of the search function but that was already in the Assets Icon.

Another thing i have noticed and I know I could learn to live with it but, I used to dump my salvage into my main Items folder and they would remain at the end of my inventory I would go through them and keep gear for sale over 100k ISK and these would be dumped into a container and the rest would be reprocessed. Now if you switch containers on the tree and then return to you items they are rearranged into whatever setting you have such as Type. Now I have to trawl through all my gear to find the salvage again. Not helpful and time consuming.

I would request that this be changed back or you have the option to opt out of this new time consuming and pointless (for me) Item Hanger. I suspect this will never happen but hey one voice started ship spinning and it was returned. Ironically I was never that fussed about ship spinning but I now enjoy having my hanger back and spinning ships.

Mav.
Kasriel
#58 - 2012-05-22 15:02:18 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:

@ Those who Do not like Unified Inventory.

ON THE TOP LEFT, there are a set of LEFT POINTING CHEVRONS. Click on this, Unified Inventory Index goes away, and you never have to use it again.


really? click that and try to open say a corp hanger, or your ship hanger, or your ships cargo bay without expanding the unified inventory part again

go on. i'll wait
Clayton Dozer
#59 - 2012-05-22 15:05:09 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Clayton Dozer wrote:
lol i can war dec my own alliance for 50 million isk guess they didnt test that feature


hmm did you test it the whole way? I get a message telling me I can't do that Blink it's actually a pretty good message if you check it out

i didnt test it the whole way didnt want to waste 50 mill for a game glitch if it did let me

i think im trolling this forum post correctly if im not then please shut up..
CCP SoniClover
C C P
C C P Alliance
#60 - 2012-05-22 15:05:34 UTC
gfldex wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Clayton Dozer wrote:
lol i can war dec my own alliance for 50 million isk guess they didnt test that feature


hey thanks, I'll look into it


While you are on it, can you ask a game designer if it was intentional to declare wardecs spillovers of alliance leaving corps (that happened today) as being forcefully mutual? (Petition spam incoming!)


The new war created when a corporation leaves an alliance keeps the same state was the war was in. So if the war was mutual on the alliance side, then the new war will be mutual also, and vice versa.