Jita Park Speakers Corner

The Issler Dainzer Interdiction is coming.

CCP has stated that all players participating in any Official CCP Sanctioned Venue such as this game, these forums and FanFest are subject to and must abide by the rules and regulations of the EULA/TOS.

CCP did remove Mittens, after he stepped down from being the head of the CSM. They also IIRC banned him from running for the next CSM.

Hehe, I knew they said something about the next CSM :D

Still, its a pity he's not going to run again. Even though I never really bothered reading all the CSM crap when the voting was going on I did vote for him, seemed like a pretty decent guy.

One can only hope that Ladie Harlot adds his/her unique balanced take on this anti - Issler thread.

I believe they said that AFTER this most recent Fanfest.

Cause there's been plenty of cursing in Official CCP Sanctioned Venues by Official CCP Devs in the past, and CCP considers cursing to be against the EULA when it's in game. There's also been plenty of drunken stupidity in Official CCP Sanctioned Venues in the past (every single FanFest).

The difference is that this time, CCP got bad press for it and they're past the point where any press is good press, so they needed to grab a goat to scape.

As some of you might have heard, one of the Alliance leaders speaking at the Alliance Panel during EVE Fanfest 2012 breached our EULA/TOS with some ill-advised remarks about a fellow EVE player. It goes without saying that CCP deeply regrets this incident and will work towards reducing any possibility of this happening again in the future.

CCP requested that all panel PowerPoint presentations and discussion topics be handed in beforehand for approval. Regrettably, the offending comments were made during an unscripted Q&A session after the main presentations.

Following a thorough internal review CCP has decided to respond to this clear violation of our Terms of Service and wholly inappropriate use of the Alliance Panel. According to our existing policies, we have issued a 30 day ban from EVE Online to the panel speaker.

The policy of CCP is not to publicly discuss warnings and bans on an individual basis. This situation is entirely unique because the panel was displayed via CCP’s Fanfest video stream component, a platform analogous to our forums. As a result we have published this statement due to the special circumstances involved. However, our policy remains that we will not publicly discuss warnings and bans.

The panelist has subsequently posted a public apology as well as a private apology to the victim of his attack. He has also resigned from his position as Chairman of CSM 6 and has forfeited his right to serve on CSM 7. As per our policies, this candidate may be eligible to run at a later date subject to candidacy review.

The Council of Stellar Management is a democratically elected council that represents the players of EVE Online. Although council members may represent the players in any manner they choose, being a council member does not permit actions or playstyles that violate our policies.

GM Salmon

VP of Customer Relationship Management

Q3, Real life actions should not equate to in game sanctions. Why did this happen?

A3, After much deliberation on the subject, CCP considers the Alliance Panel to be an official CCP forum, as it is hosted by CCP and broadcast in a similarly visible fashion to the EVE Online forums. As such, it falls under the jurisdiction of the TOS. Furthermore, the panelist, present on the panel in order to represent his in-game identity, advocated using in-game actions to achieve a real world outcome. Specifically he suggested that if anyone wanted to make another player kill themselves in real life, they should go in game and harass them to achieve that consequence. The totality of the situation including the official forum in which it was held and statements of the panelist during the Q&A, have since lead to in-game sanctions. However, it is important to note that this incidence does not necessarily create precedence for any other "real life" actions or statements triggering a ban.

Q4, Wait, so you DID vet the presentations? Meaning it was perfectly fine for him to make fun of a suicidal player?

A4, Although the contents of the Alliance Panel presentations and discussion topics are reviewed by CCP prior to the event itself, the TOS-breaking incident took place during an unscripted Q&A session after the main presentation which was not mentioned in the submitted presentation. The submitted presentation slides (although distasteful) did not give the name of the player at any time, nor did they call for direct action against that player, and therefore passed muster. CCP have always allowed substantial leeway during the Alliance Panel and we look forward to ensuring that future events remain entertaining and engaging for the EVE community.

CCP Xhagen | Senior Researcher
CSM Project Manager

Can you quote the EULA on this?

Ladie Harlot was unfortunately permanently banned.

FREE LADIE HARLOT