EVE General Discussion

Just make resources deplete over time.

New Eden needs more dynamic, evolutional mechanics. After months, the most mined systems would be void of asteroids, and would take months before new belts would start to form.

Same with moon resources and NPCs. Enough ratting, and the pirates would move elsewhere. Left in peace, they would grow stronger, take over gates and build starbases, and start raiding neighborhood systems. Rogue drones, if not killed, would multiply and swarm regions.

People would need to move, adapt and fight for resources.

A more persistant world would be totally bad ass. It would be great if the reason why there weren't many high end minerals in high sec wasn't the fact that they're not seeded there, it's because a small amount of them are seeded (along with every other mineral) and most of the high sec belts are stripped bare (until they slowly regen a few days or weeks later) by roaming packs of miners.

It would be great if rather than miners just logging on for a few hours to mine at 'their old belt', they could go hunting for 'superveld' belts which would have super high yield trit, and maybe even some zydrine, nocx or megacyte. Then they need to suck that belt bare because when the news gets out the belt will be stripped bare in a few hours by other opportunistic miners.

Dare I suggest it might even get a few of the braver miners out to low sec and null sec where there is less competition for these super-ore deposits.

So, I guess I kind of mixed a bunch of stuff in together so I'll restate it:

1. Remove the artificial limitation on high ends in high sec, have them spawn universally in the same quantities.
2. Make it so that belts don't respawn over night, but over several weeks. A dedicated team of say 20 or 30 miners should be able to clean out an entire system in a few days.
3. To compensate for the 'downtime', seeding 'super-high yield' ores in high, low and null sec, so the downtime that miners spend hunting for their next big score is compensated for by the score being much more high yield. Since the super-high yield ores will mostly be snapped up in high sec, we might actually see militant mining corps forming to hunt down and ninja mine these super-high yield belts.

I guess the intent is 'less time looking at rocks, more time spent doing logistics (moving ships around), intelligence (forming mining intelligence alliances to share information on the latest big score), and scouting (actually looking for the latest big score.)

I guess functionally the same outcome would be achieved by removing belts entirely and replacing them with probed sites that are consumed, but I think this way achieves the same 'outcomes' while adding a bit more persistance to the game and also making mining a bit more interesting than just 'look at the x'.

Although I guess you still have to stare at the x some times, it's just that the bulk of activity would move towards getting TO the x, and the x would be a lot higher yield.

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I don't think removing belts is a good idea, instead of making mining more interesting, it would just add a step to same process, and belts are a classic part of solar system, birthplace of many great stories and fights. Repetitive scanning is not fun to many.

I support the idea of implementing PI extraction interface to mining. Scan the roid in normal way, open the best one in Asteroid Mode, rotate it to find the best spot to lace your mining beam. Accuracy of the visual map would be skill based, like in PI.

To add even more to this, make the hotspot depletion fast-ish, and make the roid rotate slowly. This would require periodical adjustments in order to keep the yield high.

Maybe the engineer type guys would enjoy yet another variable, mining beam voltage/frequency rate adjustment. Using too much power on low yield areas would result in poor extraction rate, but increasing power on high yield spots would give you maximum amount of ore.

EDIT: the whole point of this is to make player skill affect the results of mining.

I'm still a fan of risk vs reward, but as long as the respawn timer is sufficiently sluggish the reward will be that the high sec minerals are mined out the second they appear and low/null sec ores are available to people daring enough to live in those regions. Plus the idea of mining intelligence networks, combing entire regions on a daily or hourly basis to look for rare spawns is kind of cool.

Perhaps there should be 'more' of that ore in riskier space, but it is seems very artificial that it just happens to be split along the exact boundaries that concord support.

Maybe they are in the pocket of big megacyte.

Sounds too good to happen.

WTB; "Prospecting" skill book.

Good point. Been awhile since I've done the NPE so didn't know they added that in. I believe previously that was one of the main counter arguments for this type of system.

A really dynamic, responsive New Eden is my favourite pipe dream

There's so much room for development in this area. Economy (taxes, customs fees), industrial and residential development (NPC-built structures and traffic), system security status (crime (both NPCs and players) and crimefighting in form of bountyhunting, ratting and missions), Empire borders (FW) and hell, what about environmental changes like pollution, comets and star lifespans?

But as Incursions showed us, CCP does not seem interested in changing things in this direction. Incursion systems should have definitely become lowsec, and Sansha influence should have spread from system to system unless stopped.

Personally it seems the opposite when it comes to realism. Why would asteroids appear in the same location all the time, even after being completely removed. Though if we really want to get into realism then most belts would be located directly around planets.

Biggest PRO for dynamic belts: roid scarcity in high population areas

Supply of materials, production and consumption shouldn't all be possible within a few jumps of each other.