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So why is CCP supporting the Burn Jita event?

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#481 - 2012-05-09 06:00:20 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
They should vote with their wallets IMO
The only thing CCP seems to care about is that

Why do you want a group of players banned wholesale from a game so bad?

Why do you even need to ask...


Okay, other than the fact that they are goons and are evil, evil people.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#482 - 2012-05-09 06:01:12 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
They should vote with their wallets IMO
The only thing CCP seems to care about is that

Why do you want a group of players banned wholesale from a game so bad?

Why do you even need to ask...


Okay, other than the fact that they are goons and are evil, evil people.

And you still have to ask?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#483 - 2012-05-09 06:18:29 UTC
Nyla Skin wrote:
Action Danger wrote:


No.

You are completely misunderstanding the whole point of this.


And care bears in highsec are ******* over the game. CCP knows this. What is interesting is if they did anything about it, it would dramatically change the game to where it is no longer a sandbox. Highsec Carebears have slowly patch after patch changed the game because they dont like that they are not 100 percent safe somewhere. Its ******* space. It is the style of the game. They tell you this constantly.


Well so called care bears are playing in the sandbox too. Forgot that?
Not that I cared about this event.



No, they forgot that they were playing in a sandbox.

Now they know.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
#484 - 2012-05-09 07:34:59 UTC
Trip Tease wrote:
Well unless you all stand up as one and do something about it complaining will get nothing done.

As long as CCP's wallets are full they will do nothing to help. Get used to that fact.

If you can prove that CCP is being manipulated by Goons or people part of goons take them to court (if you can) it's called a class action. If you can prove one group is getting away with something and another is not then you might have a case "but then i'm not a lawyer"

Everyone knows that the goons have a big role in what happens in eve so unless you plan on being part of the making in what the game does your just beating a dead horse.


Case in point stop playing the game, stop paying them money and latter rather than sooner goons will get what they wanted all along to destroy your game.



lololol bring a class action lawsuit about the jita burn...

interesting that your here 'beating the dead horse' too.... ur a troll trying to get a rise out of peeps who are just discussing something.. HELLO... that is why there are forums so peeps can talk about stuff... if u don't like it don't read it... but yet. .here u are... lololol

I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!  Now... where's Ken?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#485 - 2012-05-09 08:06:48 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Nyla Skin wrote:
Well so called care bears are playing in the sandbox too. Forgot that?
Not that I cared about this event.

No, they forgot that they were playing in a sandbox.

Now they know.

And they're trying to throw sand in our eyes too.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Goodwin
Relican Foundation
#486 - 2012-05-09 20:00:32 UTC
This entire thing amuses me.

I have sat on both sides of this fence, but I don't sit on the fence at all. If you did not like Burn Jita - quit or stop going there. It will happen again, might be a different system, but the software model supports it within the scope of its design.

Violations that get you banned are clearly laid out. Burn Jita is not one of them.

So, if you want to play a moderated carnival game with specific paths and safe avenues of play, go play TOR or WoW. You can choose PvP or ... not to PvP.

If you feel the need to continue whining please fill this form out and send it to me (you figure out how to do it in game). I know it's Military, but pretend it says EVE.

http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/legalfiles/gates_letter_sept09/attach_1.pdf

I will pretend to care and delete it.
SunTsu Rae
Perkone
Caldari State
#487 - 2012-05-10 02:14:39 UTC
Goodwin wrote:
This entire thing amuses me.

I have sat on both sides of this fence, but I don't sit on the fence at all. If you did not like Burn Jita - quit or stop going there. It will happen again, might be a different system, but the software model supports it within the scope of its design.

Violations that get you banned are clearly laid out. Burn Jita is not one of them.

So, if you want to play a moderated carnival game with specific paths and safe avenues of play, go play TOR or WoW. You can choose PvP or ... not to PvP.

If you feel the need to continue whining please fill this form out and send it to me (you figure out how to do it in game). I know it's Military, but pretend it says EVE.

http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/legalfiles/gates_letter_sept09/attach_1.pdf

I will pretend to care and delete it.



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Talrinor Rogandin
Is a Troglodyte
#488 - 2012-05-10 05:32:57 UTC
Vaal Erit wrote:
This post is why we kill you.
CCP supports us.
People flock to join EVE and pay $15/month.

The problem is with you.


Hmm interesting...when i started to play EVE at my prime time in West OZ there used to be 40 000+ playing now there is 20 000+ in my prime time. So you mean North americans are flocking to play EVE online? (I don't get to see those prime time figures). Kinda confirms the [GENERAL] impression I have from americans in MMOs if you do. Twisted

*/ runs away to hide behind some Kiwis and their sheep!


P.S. Seriously though I get what the OP is saying and I even agree with some of it as I am a careBear but I also see where CCP is coming from with this game so for me rule no. 1 stands. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE IT DON'T FLY IT!

If you can't follow that rule in EVE then you should't be playing it. EVE online is a niche MMO and with CCPS direction as it is it will ALWAYS be a niche MMO. Some people love it just for that. If you don't then your like me playing EVE cause it looks awesome and your still waiting for someone to come up with a space MMO like the X com games but with EVE graphics and UI.

FLY SAFE 07
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#489 - 2012-05-10 06:13:39 UTC  |  Edited by: No More Heroes
Lapine Davion wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
They should vote with their wallets IMO
The only thing CCP seems to care about is that

Why do you want a group of players banned wholesale from a game so bad?

Why do you even need to ask...


Okay, other than the fact that they are goons and are evil, evil people.


I'm actually a father and a family man, I run a non-profit organization that helps alcohol and drug addicts. I play massive multi-player online role-playing games, to you know- play a different role. Like an evil scumbag.

.
Andrey Wartooth
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#490 - 2012-05-10 06:22:36 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
They should vote with their wallets IMO
The only thing CCP seems to care about is that

Why do you want a group of players banned wholesale from a game so bad?

Why do you even need to ask...


Okay, other than the fact that they are goons and are evil, evil people.


I'm actually a father and a family man, I run a non-profit organization that helps alcohol and drug addicts. I play massive multi-player online role-playing games, to you know- play a different role. Like an evil scumbag.


I'm a student at a mid-level university in a bachelors degree program. When I'm not playing Eve Online I participate with my schools LGBT Alliance working for the promotion of the rights of my fellow men and women. I've also participated in several protests and am working in my own life to make the world a better place.

I play EVE to do things that I couldn't do in real life, like fly spaceships and shoot lasers. I don't shoot miners to get tears, I just figure that if the tears are going to come anyway, I might as well troll about it.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#491 - 2012-05-10 06:29:30 UTC
Andrey Wartooth wrote:
I don't shoot miners to get tears, I just figure that if the tears are going to come anyway, I might as well troll about it.

Oh. Maximising what you get for a given amount of effort and lost ships, huh.

Laudable !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#492 - 2012-05-10 06:38:30 UTC
Talrinor Rogandin wrote:

Hmm interesting...when i started to play EVE at my prime time in West OZ there used to be 40 000+ playing now there is 20 000+ in my prime time. So you mean North americans are flocking to play EVE online? (I don't get to see those prime time figures). Kinda confirms the [GENERAL] impression I have from americans in MMOs if you do. Twisted

If you want to know how many people are logged in at any give time, check out this.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

As you can see peak user count is holding somewhere are 42k, which is a fair drop from some times in the past, but has been steadily recovering since it dropped out with the Incarna release and associated drama, with major peaks around the time of the Crucible release.

EVE took a big hit because of the carebear initiatives, any such moves in the future will be limited in scope and planned so as to not impact the core gameplay, which is PVP sandboxing.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Andrey Wartooth
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#493 - 2012-05-10 06:40:00 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Talrinor Rogandin wrote:

Hmm interesting...when i started to play EVE at my prime time in West OZ there used to be 40 000+ playing now there is 20 000+ in my prime time. So you mean North americans are flocking to play EVE online? (I don't get to see those prime time figures). Kinda confirms the [GENERAL] impression I have from americans in MMOs if you do. Twisted

If you want to know how many people are logged in at any give time, check out this.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

As you can see peak user count is holding somewhere are 42k, which is a fair drop from some times in the past, but has been steadily recovering since it dropped out with the Incarna release and associated drama, with major peaks around the time of the Crucible release.

EVE took a big hit because of the carebear initiatives, any such moves in the future will be limited in scope and planned so as to not impact the core gameplay, which is PVP sandboxing.


u r goonie liar n i haet u y u lie all teh times?
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#494 - 2012-05-10 08:35:28 UTC
......I don't see why burn jita causes so much butt hurt.

Is it really impossible to jump to Amarr, or Rens, or Dodixie or any of the other systems with decent markets?

I had a blast that weekend, I did some camping in empire, blew up some goons (in Jita ironically) and brought a Tempest 38 jumps across empire with the entire CFC wardec'd.

Was good times.
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#495 - 2012-05-10 10:37:11 UTC
It should have started at Jita and spread to all the trade hubs imo. EvE is a pvp game afterall.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#496 - 2012-05-10 14:49:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Lapine Davion wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Nyla Skin wrote:
Action Danger wrote:


No.

You are completely misunderstanding the whole point of this.


And care bears in highsec are ******* over the game. CCP knows this. What is interesting is if they did anything about it, it would dramatically change the game to where it is no longer a sandbox. Highsec Carebears have slowly patch after patch changed the game because they dont like that they are not 100 percent safe somewhere. Its ******* space. It is the style of the game. They tell you this constantly.


Well so called care bears are playing in the sandbox too. Forgot that?
Not that I cared about this event.


They should vote with their wallets IMO
The only thing CCP seems to care about is that


Why do you want a group of players banned wholesale from a game so bad?


Ppl leaving the game would equate to Goons getting banned how exactly? I dont understand your reasoning

I stand by what I said still. The only way to get anything done would be to unsub. Hell that way Goons get what they want too. I dont see why youre against it.
Best part of Burn Jita was seein Goons can dish it out but when they start taking it they IM CCP

Lol lotta red bars here, Im assuming the Goons are descending

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Anton Bairloch
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#497 - 2012-05-10 15:04:16 UTC
I love the way the original poster makes a clear argument in a well thought out post, and the majority of replies are illiterate, hate quips with no thought behind them. Not terribly surprising, in fact entirely typical, just comical to me.

There are two types of people that play this game. The first cares about the play experience for all players. The second, doesn't. That's all there is to it.

Unfortunately for players in the first category, the devs are in the second category as long as the game is making money hand over fist.
Criitucius
The Dark Horizon
#498 - 2012-05-11 21:46:57 UTC
I've seen some interesting stuff that I didn't know. I see where the Goons are sanctioned as CCP's police force for bots. Cool, I guess you are the good guys afterall. I've certainly seen that you are well organized to respond to the forums...althought you could work on presenting a more consolidated story (from a marketing standpoint).

I'm no philanthropist and I don't volunteer to run a free clinic in the third world somewhere, but I'm a father too. That's one of the reasons I'm taking a break. My son has seen all this, comes in to watch the game now and then...well more than now and then...and asks me questions about character interactions that I can't defend.

I hope he really understands that this is just a sandbox and that lying, cheating, stealing, harrassing online publishers, breaking into websites, or occasional calls for people to make someone kill themselves is just all part of the fun.

I have a little problem understanding and compartmentalizing it, but I was born in a different time than many of you.
I also have a little problem believing that some of these alter egos aren't just repressed personalities that are hidden from view only when people are watching. That's a subject for formal educational studies though, not my conjecture.

I have a few more days, so good luck and fly safe y'all. It really is a beautiful and enticing galaxy.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#499 - 2012-05-11 22:01:15 UTC
Agreed. All activities that you cannot comfortably explain to your child should stop, everywhere.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#500 - 2012-05-11 22:07:51 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Agreed. All activities that you cannot comfortably explain to your child should stop, everywhere.

He better not ask where children come from then...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?