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CCP employees must be removed from the game.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#301 - 2012-05-08 23:48:31 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
"Soundwaffe".

Christ Roll



haha...


hahahaha...


*cough*


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AHAHAHAAHAHAHA ...




*brrreeaaaatttheeee*





AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#302 - 2012-05-09 00:02:39 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons.

For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED.

The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE.

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth.

I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart?

Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game.

There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues.

These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL


1. Worst presentation of an issue ever
2. OP 100% missed the whole point of this game, in other games you have some lame NPC mega[corp|nation|clan] EVE's "evil megacorp" is player made in the sandbox, it's a good thing dummy
3. Employees play the games they develop, xhit happens, I am quite sure they don't get pixel perks..

lol, OMG that dev is launching fighters from his cruiser drone bay!!Shocked

I'm an American, English is my second language...
Yalneg Splet
Neptune PVP Corporation
#303 - 2012-05-09 00:04:13 UTC
Also the Goons and their Dev friends shaved my cat and TP'd my house
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#304 - 2012-05-09 00:25:07 UTC
Oh goons, you so bad.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#305 - 2012-05-09 00:26:29 UTC
Yalneg Splet wrote:
Also the Goons and their Dev friends shaved my cat and TP'd my house

Target Painter IIs, with bonuses?

Oh it's because the titan was having trouble hitting it with turrets, right?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Kriegman
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#306 - 2012-05-09 00:33:02 UTC
PERMA BAN ALL CCP DEVS!!! Problem solved.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#307 - 2012-05-09 00:33:55 UTC
Kriegman wrote:
PERMA BAN ALL CCP DEVS!!! Problem solved.

Then who would cod-

Oh, I see what you're getting at ... it's actually so they can't nerf tech, isn't it? Clever...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Amitious Turkey
10kSubnautic
Warriors of the Blood God
#308 - 2012-05-09 00:45:46 UTC
Yalneg Splet wrote:
Also the Goons and their Dev friends shaved my cat and TP'd my house


They stole my goat :(

I like to lick things.

Haunting the forums since 03.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#309 - 2012-05-09 00:50:47 UTC
Amitious Turkey wrote:
They stole my goat :(


You do NOT want that goat back now. Trust me...
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#310 - 2012-05-09 00:55:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
I still dont understand how people can get then and than mixed up. Really fucks with my head when im reading otherwise exemplary posts such as the op's.

Oh and soundwaffe... genious
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#311 - 2012-05-09 01:01:50 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
We just ended up on different sides of the fence on this one.


Now that i think about it, It's been everything even remotely goon related. Which nearly everything has been since i've returned. You seem to always come to their aid. I assume your main is one, or something, which is fine.

I look forward to them not being the subject du jour here day after day.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#312 - 2012-05-09 02:04:40 UTC
Urp-splosion tyme naow?

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Panacani
Doomheim
#313 - 2012-05-09 02:07:48 UTC
Soundwave seems like an ok dude from the dev blogs/vlogs and tourny I've seen him in. He plays the game - a specific way, like everyone does - and definately has a bias toward his style of play (whatever that may be). He can try to be objective, but it's just not possible to be completely neutral when you are invested in the gameplay. To say otherwise means you don't understand human nature.

I'm not saying hes completely bias toward the newbie ganking, scaming, laughing at suicidal folks kind of guy, but he has 'favorite' features like we all do.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#314 - 2012-05-09 02:17:57 UTC
Hey, it's I don't give a ****-o clock and this thread is still up.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#315 - 2012-05-09 02:22:13 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Now that i think about it, It's been everything even remotely goon related. Which nearly everything has been since i've returned. You seem to always come to their aid. I assume your main is one, or something, which is fine.
…or maybe most of the anti-goon ranting has been unadulterated, foaming-at-the-mouth nonsense, and Ranger 1 would prefer that people actually had a rational point to make instead.
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#316 - 2012-05-09 03:14:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Doctor Ungabungas
Forums ate my post. :smith:
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#317 - 2012-05-09 03:14:27 UTC
stg slate wrote:
[If you replaced ever instance of GOON with BOB in the OPs post then this could have been a rant from back i nthe day when I first started playing :P

Also, didn't know CCP Soundwave was a goon. Isn't that new security guy a goon too? Screegs or whatever his name is?


There are a few significant differences though, which I will write in a numbered list for ease of consumption:

1. There was proof of corruption with regard to devs inside BoB. There isn't even a hint of evidence in this case.

2. There were no 'checks and balances' to prevent dev corruption at the time. There is now a unit dedicated to stamping out this sort of corruption with an anonymous tip line.

3. BoB leadership actively worked to defend their hideous gameplay advantage by lobbying against nerfs and fixes through their internal contacts. GSF actively works to get broken gameplay mechanics like technetium, 'the supercapital issue' fixed using legitimate methods like publicity stunts (doomsdaying a carrier to death, burn jita, etc), networking with the media (remember incarna-gate) and our CSM influence (welp). I can't think of any other 'player groups' that have worked harder to 'improve' eve-online as a platform while putting just as much effort into scamming and devouring the souls of individual players.

4. Dianabolic (as BoB alliance leadership) tried to defend corrupt behavior by saying 'even devs need friends'. I don't speak for GSF as a whole, but if you do have any evidence of corruption: let's get some drama happening. Get that **** mailed in, posted, it'll be great. Drama is the secret energy that fuels GSF dark engine room.

The hidden secret of GSF that we must always strive to keep hidden, laying waste to the knowing like a Blood Raven primarch is that we all enjoy playing eve online and want it to succeed so that we can keep playing eve online.

Huge space empire hijinks and publicity stunts like Burn Jita bring new people in and driving changes to key issues like incarna-gate, supercarrier-gate, and technetium-gate (**** you Nixon) keeps the game from stagnating to the point it did in 2009 when 0.0 turned into a massive global cold war.

Dev corruption is anathema to GSF for just this reason, it drives players away by the bucket load and has the potential to destroy the game permanently.

So I'm not asking people to trust GSF [because that would be astonishingly stupid at best], but take a second to consider whether the day old NPC corp alt really has the best interests of the game at heart when they continue to attack at CCP using the time proven weapons of 'fear uncertainty and doubt'. Because if there was tangible evidence of corruption that CCP Internal Affairs wasn't stamping out, you'd be reading about it on the Wall Street Journal already.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#318 - 2012-05-09 03:19:20 UTC
Pff… you know you're going to get kicked out of both the EVE forums and SA if you're going to be that reasonable, right? P
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#319 - 2012-05-09 03:35:56 UTC
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
[ I don't speak for GSF as a whole, but if you do have any evidence of corruption: let's get some drama happening. Get that **** mailed in, posted, it'll be great. Drama is the secret energy that fuels GSF dark engine room.

The hidden secret of GSF that we must always strive to keep hidden, laying waste to the knowing like a Blood Raven primarch is that we all enjoy playing eve online and want it to succeed so that we can keep playing eve online.

On now you've brought up the Blood Raven primarch ...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#320 - 2012-05-09 03:39:44 UTC
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
stg slate wrote:
[If you replaced ever instance of GOON with BOB in the OPs post then this could have been a rant from back i nthe day when I first started playing :P

Also, didn't know CCP Soundwave was a goon. Isn't that new security guy a goon too? Screegs or whatever his name is?


There are a few significant differences though, which I will write in a numbered list for ease of consumption:

1. There was proof of corruption with regard to devs inside BoB. There isn't even a hint of evidence in this case.

2. There were no 'checks and balances' to prevent dev corruption at the time. There is now a unit dedicated to stamping out this sort of corruption with an anonymous tip line.

3. BoB leadership actively worked to defend their hideous gameplay advantage by lobbying against nerfs and fixes through their internal contacts. GSF actively works to get broken gameplay mechanics like technetium, 'the supercapital issue' fixed using legitimate methods like publicity stunts (doomsdaying a carrier to death, burn jita, etc), networking with the media (remember incarna-gate) and our CSM influence (welp). I can't think of any other 'player groups' that have worked harder to 'improve' eve-online as a platform while putting just as much effort into scamming and devouring the souls of individual players.

4. Dianabolic (as BoB alliance leadership) tried to defend corrupt behavior by saying 'even devs need friends'. I don't speak for GSF as a whole, but if you do have any evidence of corruption: let's get some drama happening. Get that **** mailed in, posted, it'll be great. Drama is the secret energy that fuels GSF dark engine room.

The hidden secret of GSF that we must always strive to keep hidden, laying waste to the knowing like a Blood Raven primarch is that we all enjoy playing eve online and want it to succeed so that we can keep playing eve online.

Huge space empire hijinks and publicity stunts like Burn Jita bring new people in and driving changes to key issues like incarna-gate, supercarrier-gate, and technetium-gate (**** you Nixon) keeps the game from stagnating to the point it did in 2009 when 0.0 turned into a massive global cold war.

Dev corruption is anathema to GSF for just this reason, it drives players away by the bucket load and has the potential to destroy the game permanently.

So I'm not asking people to trust GSF [because that would be astonishingly stupid at best], but take a second to consider whether the day old NPC corp alt really has the best interests of the game at heart when they continue to attack at CCP using the time proven weapons of 'fear uncertainty and doubt'. Because if there was tangible evidence of corruption that CCP Internal Affairs wasn't stamping out, you'd be reading about it on the Wall Street Journal already.


Luckily, since you are a Goon everyone can safely ignore your logical argument in favor of more irrational Goon and CCP hate.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]