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So why is CCP supporting the Burn Jita event?

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#441 - 2012-05-08 06:30:20 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Andski wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Kinda like making alt accounts to vote isnt it


oh man people still say this nonsense

hisec miner proles are hilarious


Goon lies are more funny tho


I've never known anyone to make alts to vote. Now alts to sell, then end up using those accounts to vote also on the other hand...

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Kana Lenti
xXxMETALxGEARxXx
#442 - 2012-05-08 06:31:34 UTC
I like how this forum category is called "EVE Communication Center".
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#443 - 2012-05-08 06:32:39 UTC
Kana Lenti wrote:
I like how this forum category is called "EVE Communication Center".

Your enjoyment is important to us all!

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Marcus Daven
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#444 - 2012-05-08 06:46:41 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Marcus Daven wrote:
Actually, wait, you're leaving would deprive the goons of your tears...can't have that.

There's plenty of tears, I wouldn't be overly worried about us.


Ah, but wouldn't you say some tears are more filling then others?
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#445 - 2012-05-08 10:17:00 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Andski wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Kinda like making alt accounts to vote isnt it


oh man people still say this nonsense

hisec miner proles are hilarious


Goon lies are more funny tho


I've never known anyone to make alts to vote. Now alts to sell, then end up using those accounts to vote also on the other hand...


whatever you tell yourself....

Thanks for admitting the lie though

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#446 - 2012-05-08 11:16:45 UTC
Despite the OP's clearly butthurt emotion, he kinda does have a point.

Suicide ganking and all that is part of the game, if some idiot is stupid enough to carry 5bil worth of plex in an ibis and go afk then there fault, you move 30bil of moon goo in a charon on autopilot, **** is gonna happen.

However when it gets to the stage that when you undock from a highsec stationand get your freighter alpha'd by 150 thrashers, there is something slightly broken there.

A thrasher is not worth anything, sec status is not worth anything......so IF these people felt like it, they could literally shutdown Jita, kill the hub unless CCP steps in. Thats when you know something is a bit unbalanced.
Phoenix Heart
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#447 - 2012-05-08 11:27:47 UTC
Yeah. Everything they're doing is within game rules. This game would be boring as $h#% if it were a cake walk. I saw the whole of the eve community band together and stage a counter attack. That should be the response, not whining. LIFE IS HARD!
Chevere del'Alma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#448 - 2012-05-08 14:14:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Chevere del'Alma
Phoenix Heart wrote:
Yeah. Everything they're doing is within game rules. This game would be boring as $h#% if it were a cake walk. I saw the whole of the eve community band together and stage a counter attack. That should be the response, not whining. LIFE IS HARD!


I've read this an other qoutes... Honestly

sandbox
People can do what ever they want.
EVE ONLINE is the the PVP MMO, in fact THE PVP game out there. There is PVP in every turn, and every inch in this game. From market dominance, to territory, to control of trade. Even in empire people go to war over where people want to mine.

(And in response, there were plenty of people including pirates, that staged a counter attack, so they burn jita? did you hear about "save jita"? someone is missing the other side of the coin)

*PS GF is intelligent they wanted to control market prices and bought a lot of goods before staging the assault and then sell them after when the prices were high.

They do it because they want to, they do it because they can, they do it because it's fun. The best part of the game is if you want to stop them, you can as well.

Eve isn't wow, it isn't kotor, it's not designed for you to go to your little corner and mine or mission all day and no one bother you. It's designed to be brutal, harsh, and force you to band together to fend off against other raiders, and protect your own.
If you don't like it, stop paying the 15 bucks a month, this ain't your game son, go back to WOW where you can't die XD XD XD

From a great post i once found:

Quote:
13.Ignore those who fear losing ships. Do not get caught up in the theme park MMO idea that you must keep upgrading. Every ship class is vaiable, always, for as long as you play. The number one thing you must learn is that everything you buy, you’ve bought it to be destroyed at some point.
14.As a corollary to the point preceding: don’t get attached to things. If you’re not attached to your stuff, you’ll enjoy EVE that much more. (This alone deserves its own post soon.)


tbh they aren't directly supporting goons, they are supporting they're freedom and ability to do so. (If your from the good ol' US of A then you should too.....think about it, it'll click soon enough)
Radoico
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#449 - 2012-05-08 15:01:58 UTC
I think that CCP is suicidal when supports piracy, Burn Jita and Hulkagedons... I am here to have fun, not problems, not to suffer bullying. If I want "high emotions" I would not stay in high sec, but in low sec, null sec and wh.

These last weeks I moved with my corp leader to an worhole. Life there is danger and I lost ships, I was pod killed, but I knew what would be. But when I am at high sec I want peace, I want mine, run missions, trade, but these people doesn't want me to do it.

If life in high sec continues to be as to live in low sec or worse, I will not renew my subscription. I made a bad mistake, I did an one year contract, but CCP will not see my money again.
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#450 - 2012-05-08 15:05:44 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Despite the OP's clearly butthurt emotion, he kinda does have a point.

Suicide ganking and all that is part of the game, if some idiot is stupid enough to carry 5bil worth of plex in an ibis and go afk then there fault, you move 30bil of moon goo in a charon on autopilot, **** is gonna happen.

However when it gets to the stage that when you undock from a highsec stationand get your freighter alpha'd by 150 thrashers, there is something slightly broken there.

A thrasher is not worth anything, sec status is not worth anything......so IF these people felt like it, they could literally shutdown Jita, kill the hub unless CCP steps in. Thats when you know something is a bit unbalanced.


There are some things you can do to reduce that risk though. Things like 'checking if there are 150 thrashers outside with the stated intent of killing you'.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#451 - 2012-05-08 15:31:56 UTC
Now perhaps this thread can be locked.

Fruitless, pointless, stupid.

COO - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse  CEO - Sanctuary Pact Alliance
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#452 - 2012-05-08 15:34:18 UTC
Radoico wrote:
I think that CCP is suicidal when supports piracy, Burn Jita and Hulkagedons... I am here to have fun, not problems, not to suffer bullying. If I want "high emotions" I would not stay in high sec, but in low sec, null sec and wh.

These last weeks I moved with my corp leader to an worhole. Life there is danger and I lost ships, I was pod killed, but I knew what would be. But when I am at high sec I want peace, I want mine, run missions, trade, but these people doesn't want me to do it.

If life in high sec continues to be as to live in low sec or worse, I will not renew my subscription. I made a bad mistake, I did an one year contract, but CCP will not see my money again.



I tell you what: if you promise never to buy or sell minerals, LP store items, ships, modules or anything else to people I don't like, I'll leave you alone too.

Wait, what's that you say: you'll sell stuff to whoever you like and I have to like it?

OK then you get shot at.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
URG thrash
Lethal Injection Inc.
#453 - 2012-05-08 18:23:24 UTC
wow alot of people whining on this threadnaught.

I am a care-bear, a big ol fluffy care-bear ! i support hulkageddon and burn jita just because it shakes things up! removes some of the competition and make market prices go up on stuff i build like ships.

You do not have to live on the forums to know about burn jita and hulkageddon. i practicly live under a rock and learned about both events thru word of mouth from other players. and i do a monthly search for hulkageddon on google.

These kind folks ANNOUNCE the event. Its no secret you just have to listen........

Eve is a sand box , that means its a ruthless cut throat environment that test you everyday. sandbox does not mean a nice day at the playground with the teacher watching making sure you dont get bullied.

Man the f&*k up ppl or go back to WoW....

THIS IS EVE! it is not for the weak or un-dedicated

only the strong survive here....

peace or pieces .............toodles
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#454 - 2012-05-08 18:38:46 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I generally support anything the playerbase does unless it violates our TOS/EULA Big smile


And if CCP doens't support it, it usually ends up added to the EULA anyway, Lol

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Henningus Assistus
GO' R0V
Pandemic Horde
#455 - 2012-05-08 20:31:12 UTC
I had one alt make >500 mill in a few days by aggressively bying and selling ice, so instead of watching youtube music while hauling ice blocks endlessly, I experienced a different type of pvp and weatched as my efforts drove the local prices up by 40%:)

Also now making a pirat alt - wanna do some killing, and when his sec stat gets too low, I will have to venture into the low and null secs to get him back on the feet to do more - IF it turns out I enjoy popping exhumers.

So much for Hulkageddon - it doesn't bother me much.


As for the 'Burn Jita' - heard from a former carebear corp-mate, now slaving for Goons :) Their corp made a huge profit from ganking all kinds of ships in and outside Jita - he told me this is how they will make their fortunes in the future, meaning IF Goons and/or others large enough chooses to do so, they will have total domination of trade in whatever part of the New Eden they choose to.
In my opinion this turns the game in a direction I don't like.
Reason - it 'forces" me and others to join the Goon slaves in order to be allowed to explore the game - kinda like mafia / gang style isn't it ?

As some points out we do pay RL $$$ to play the game, and as some points out if they feel locked down long enough, they will terminate their subscription. IMHO it will make people stop playing and some new players stop fast, should large alliances be successfull in taking command of high-sec areas.
If that happens I am pretty sure CCP will not allow it - the game is sold by the fact that you can do whatever you want (as long as you don't etc...).
Can-flippers, ninjas - even occasional suiciders can be tolerated and you learn how to live with it / avoid it.
But if your game-fun is dictated by other players, I believe it will be the end of EVE.

Fly safe !
quAdraven
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#456 - 2012-05-08 22:01:21 UTC

Someone posted : The EVE Economy is absolutely ******. Years of RMT, of Botting, of "free" minerals have done an absolute number on the economy. While CCP would never directly intervene, they certainly welcome player self correction. Goons attacked the Gallente Ice fields not because it would **** off highsec kids -- well, not entirely so -- but because our logistics guys looked at the economy as a whole and realized that the entire economy is based on a few hundred people cheating using ice bot accounts. That's ****** up, and you don't have to be a Goon to agree. Ice needs to be moved to lowsec or even Nullsec, and moved fast.

I can shed some light on you folks on the burn jita campaign. It truly was based on economy of eve, not only having fun with tears and the like. The destruction of your valuable assets is only the first step to the overall idea of 'burn jita.' You see, a lot of Tech 2 modules and ship hulls require Technetium to build, and by destroying vast amounts of these ships, it forces users to buy the hulls and or rebuild them. Seeing as how GF/CFC holds a large portion of Technetium generation, we see a lot of incoming profit and market price increase on Tech 2 hulls, furthuring profit. With that said, Burn Jita was also for the fun of getting kills, I however was not a participant. With a large amount of CFC forces within empire space, there was constant invasion of home territories that were also pushed back. Hopefully all you people that live in Empire space get a chance to check out nulsec life, its a whole new sandbox out in distant space.....

"someone bridge us in probers!!"
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#457 - 2012-05-08 22:09:56 UTC
quAdraven wrote:
Hopefully all you people that live in Empire space get a chance to check out nulsec life, its a whole new sandbox out in distant space.....

"someone bridge us in probers!!"

Is that a cyno?

Oh no, it's NC.'s titan fleet *welp*

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#458 - 2012-05-08 22:11:00 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I generally support anything the playerbase does unless it violates our TOS/EULA Big smile

And if CCP doens't support it, it usually ends up added to the EULA anyway, Lol

Bannable exploit What?

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Trip Tease
Merchants of Death
#459 - 2012-05-08 22:29:43 UTC
I think if i remember correctly back in 05 a little pirat corp known as mOo did this exact same thing and were told to stop by the devs they refused stating that it was a sandbox game and thus were allowed by the rules themselves. Well that ended badly for them and got perma banned for life.

EVE has evolved since then and game rules have changed (handjobs, hummers in the back room, free beer at the local bar, whatever) thus letting Goons do whatever they want to. So in the good sport of a sandbox game get used to it as long as you pay to play this game you will have to deal with people who's sole intent is to make you unhappy for whatever excuse they say it's for.

If you don't like it so much A. don't go to jita. B. don't pay to play a game you don't have fun in C. shoot back

I've played both sides of the fence and could really care less what they do and by the way welcome to eve
Tgarius Storm
Empire Storm
#460 - 2012-05-08 22:33:13 UTC
I find the whole thing humorous ..as one who has been in EVE sine the onset of game I have avoided being part of any large group. That is the way I've always played the game. There are those in RL that love being part of large organizations.. it makes them feel secure, to me it makes them much less of an individual and just another cog in someones machine. I don't play EVE to be bossed around and given orders like little sheep but apparently many do. In this case I think GOON is a more descriptive word then a title.