EVE General Discussion

In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons.

For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED.

The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE.

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth.

I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart?

Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game.

There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues.

These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL

They hardly play it anyway, why bother?

I think it would be fine as long as they were stuck in NPC corps.

The problem is they always seem to end up in the big 0.0 alliances, and history is rife with examples of why that's bad for the game.

Dude, its a sandbox, don't build sandcastles if you can't keep the kid with ass-burgers from tripping and falling on it.

Not sure where I stand on this topic. On one hand there's the conflict of interest, on the other hand it's hard to deny that it would be difficult for the developers to really understand the current state of game mechanics in EVE if they were not allowed to play.

I think the most essential rule has to be that any CCP employee who plays cannot reveal his or her status as a developer or GM to anyone in-game. If they adhere strictly to that code of conduct, and have some sort of preventative measures in place to discourage such disclosure, then I cannot see why they shouldn't be allowed to play?

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Oh and your whole tie-in with CCP being Goons, I'd have to ask you to present some hard evidence to prove your claim. If you cannot, the claim is at best irrelevant and at worst an irresponsible attempt to discredit CCP. Either way, nothing good will come of such accusations.

I'm mostly a hisec player with an occasional roam into low when I get my buddies online. Having said that I seriously think that hisec should quit whining and do something about it themselves. The supposed people who represent hisec players in the CSM could use their visibility to create some chaos atleast. I'm not a huge fan of the goons, but atleast they play and they have fun. If we don't like it we'd better show up or shut up.

needs more exaggerations, hyperbole, and outright falsehoods to really complete with the sperglord tinfoil kings around here

you seem more dumb and uninformed than actually mentally unhinged, sorry

Like they could legitimately police every contact derived from the recruitment channel.

Don't be an idiot.

Scamming is one of the methods for extracting your tears that greases the engine of the GoonSwarm Federation.

Why don't I come over this afternoon and we'll do something about that hair.......