EVE General Discussion

Block prices are up to 18k ISK/u right now because Isotopes have gone up to 900-1000 ISK/u due to HAG5. Come back in a month and they'll be back down in the 500-650 range. Plus, you should always make your own fuel blocks. It is not an expensive investment (20-25M for a perfectly researched BPO on contracts) or a big time cost (you can make a month of fuel for a large tower in about 30-35 hours in a station slot).

October prices have to assume full LOz/HW usage. Which, even for a larger tower back then (assuming you didn't max out one or the other) only changed the total numbers by 5-10%. No matter which way you sliced it, fuel pellets were cheaper then the old-style fueling for small towers. If you ran your tower at maximum LOz usage, then it was a big savings. If you didn't max out your LOz usage, it wasn't as much savings, but still some.

The current isotope price spike also goes to show why you should maintain a 2-3 month supply of fuel, so you can ride out the semi-annual spikes in the market caused by HAG / interdiction efforts.

In nullsec (Sovereign Nullsec) if you see a single neut in local, he's there to kill you. That's not true in HiSec. So how is Nullsec safer again?

Well, you already knew this, but I'll repeat it for the people who don't know you are a lying Goon.

In High Sec, I CAN NOT know if someone is there to kill me by just looking at the Local channel.

In Null Sec, I CAN know if someone is there to kill me by just looking at the Local channel.

This makes it much, much, almost infinitely, easier to avoid ganks in Null Sec.

This is drooling ****** speak here. Nullsec space is made safe by the players making it that way. There is no NPC police force bringing the fear of god into potential gankers. There are literally a million reasons why nullsec is more dangerous and risky than highsec.

Sov null-sec in and of itself is not dangerous. Getting out there may be sketchy, unless you have something with a jump drive.

But once you are actually in your home system, life couldn't be more safe. You have intel channels that let you know of hostiles jumps away. You have local that instantly tells you what everyone is there to do (blue=not shot you, not blue=shoot you). You have fewer people, so the chances of running into a "not blue" are less.

I've lived in pretty much every region of EVE at one point or another, and nothing makes me more nervous than flying through highsec in anything of value.

Well, maybe rancer is more dangerous than high-sec, but that's different.

While there is some truth to that statement, you must take into account that having a 'safe' carebear haven in null-sec is based on diplomatic relations, sovereignty mechanics and having a large enough PVP fleet to defend your space if required.

Nobody is saying that CCP should make empire an overly safe carebear zone. It would be nice if they would acknowledge that two thirds of the games population live there though, and perhaps pay some attention to the voices of this majority instead of catering so much to the null-sec alliances.

Forgive my ignorance but as someone who hasn't partaken in nullsec industry could you expand a bit on this?

…which you can still use for things other than simple RP collection (and for RP collection as well, since it's not going away). None of your SP or training time is wasted unless you choose to waste it by not making use of it.

Have a look in EVEMon what those skills can be used for and start doing that in addition to RP harvesting.

CCP Soundwave seems to be using the old 'carrot and stick' approach to get people into low/null.

Trouble is, he forgot the carrot and is only using the stick. I think this will come back to haunt him, to be honest.

Mr Epeen

The problem with this is that:

- WTF do the faction warfare corps have to do with R&D from a lore standpoint?

- Nerfing the rate of passive RP accumulation or raising the cost of datacores is going to raise the prices of invented T2 gear.

The proper approach would have been:

a) Leave existing passive R&D mechanics alone. Leave RP/datacore prices alone. Don't move player's cheese if you don't have to.

b) Increase the amount of RP that you get as a reward from the daily mission. Boost it enough that it's worth doing those daily missions. Right now, those daily missions are only worth about a few hundred thousand ISK/day. And because L4 R&D agents are spread around, nobody wants to bother flying 20-30 jumps per day just to earn 2-3 million ISK worth of datacores.

c) Add datacores to the R&D NPC corp LP stores.

d) Go ahead and add things to the FW LP store - I think datacores are a bad thing because they don't have anything to do with the lore of the FW NPC corps. BPCs for combat hulls / modules would be a far better fit.

e) If you have high standings with the corp in question, you should get a 10-30% discount on goods from that NPC store.

Increased supply would turn down the payback on passive R&D point earning another notch over time, giving people time to figure out that it's becoming an even more marginal income method. Right now, payback for (5) R&D L4 agents is already 30-60 days. By boosting the supply sources, you gradually wean people off while moving them towards more active production of datacores.