Test Server Feedback

Yup. Greater blob will win, and fewer people will plex for occupancy because it will take too long to capture a system.

One of the great things about plexing right now is that you can capture a system in a reasonable amount of time. But whatever. Adapt as always.

Where have you been roleplaying FW? Not in FW, that's for sure. Your pvp record sucks donkey balls which means you're a forum warrior at best who will never enter low sec. I am glad you have waited 7 years to start your pvp career. LOL.

Remember, Soundwave in his ten ton hammer interview that the idea is to scale back passive datacore accumulation in favor of active accrual. So yes, I imagine datacore prices WILL increase until Faction Warfare people start cashing in their LP and fill the production gap.



If you watch the Fan Fest presentation, there is a portion where CCP Ytterbium discusses that the concept is for LP store prices to be on a sliding scale, tied to the overall success of one's faction. My guess (and a dev will have to verify) is that without any plexing or sov changes taking place since the patch, both factions are essentially at zero on accumulating factional perks based on war success, and thus the prices are wonky.

We were testing last night and also discovered high prices for out LP stores as well, so this isn't just affecting one militia or another. It also may be buggy at the moment, its impossible for us to tell until the devs explain precisely what is on the server and how it supposed to work. We may have to wait a few more days for the dev blog, unless they choose to come on and clarify sooner than that.

Overall, awesome reporting! This is great to see, pilots taking the time to hop on and PLAY and share their discoveries with others. I tip my hat to you. There are a whole host of emergent market scenarios that are simply impossible to predict, despite what anyone's claiming they know is going to happen. We just won't know how this will play out until its been on Tranquility a while, let alone SiSi.

Just fyi, the team shipping the faction warfare changes in Inferno will continue working on faction warfare after Inferno. Their task will be to follow up on the release and if they have time, add more stuff. First priority will be reacting to the changes that we ship, second priority adding new stuff to FW and the UI. That is their only task for the expansion following Inferno.

The second thing is this: I'm not entirely sure where the impression that we want to turn faction warfare into "0.0" has come from, but it's entirely inaccurate. We're not about to do that and the only similarity to 0.0 is that you'll be able to deny docking rights, which isn't turning Fw into 0.0, but common sense for any territorial combat, no matter where it is.

This is Sisi, it's a test server. It's where we put stuff to test it out and make changes, fix bugs etc. We write devblogs for releases, not for the test server. If you expect a devblog for our test server, you've entirely misunderstood how devblogs work.

Let's keep the trash talk for the server, everyone. This is a feedback thread, I appreciate you keeping it as such.

Did something happen to the server?

It was taken down to update it.

RubberBAND, Optimal and Arrow have replied to plenty of feedback and encouraged more of it - also just because someone isn't seen to be responding, doesn't mean they aren't taking the feedback in.

lol

Well this is good news. I hope they continue to iterate on faction war - to the extent they make it better and not more like the same thing we see in null sec.

Let me explain why the comparison with sov null sec being made:


1) In null sec it takes a long enough time to flip a system so a small gang can't do anything of substance before the more numerous side can form a blob and chase them out. You are doing this by making it take longer to flip a system.
2) In null sec you can deny docking rights so roaming fleets in enemy space are more rare, easier to counter, and take more planning and time to form up.
3) In null sec if you get the blob to capture a system you can upgrade your system so you can carebear more effectively

I mean this is basically sov null sec in a nut shell. In this expansion you are doing all these things. So in those regards you are making it more like sov null sec. In what ways is this expansion making faction war less like sov null sec?

I am not sure why it is common sense that an amarr milita member is not allowed to use any services or dock in a 24th imperial crusade station.

As far as dev blogs, I have given up on expecting them at all. The last faction war dev blog was how many years ago? If you read the end of that dev blog does it say that ccp will continue to work on faction war?

Even now it is very hard to find out how the current fw mechanics work. Can you point me to a ccp created source that really gives a detailed explanation of how many plexes need to switch and what effect the the size of the plex has on flipping it?

I am not trying to give you a hard time. I am just trying to explain that what you are doing is not being received well from many because we are already offered allot of these sorts of game play in eve and are not interested.

And although some people are saying give it a try and if it doesn't work ccp will change it there are 2 problems:

1) Some people will like these changes. The same people who like null sec have expressed they like these changes. So its not like no one will do faction war. People will. Its just that it will be people who already have what they are looking for in other parts of the game shifting back and forth. You won't be adding anything really unique to keep the people who aren't interested in the sov null sec stuff entertained.

2) Well your past history in treating faction war as something that doesn't deserve ongoing concern.