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When will sec status get refunded?
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Be4st
The Abusement Park
#1 - 2012-04-28 13:44:20 UTC
I know CCP is getting ALOT of bug reports/petitions about the "Flashy Red Pod" issue. One of them was mine as I thought I was the only one affected. (a corp mate never got GCC'd for popping a pod). CCP were kind enough to reply to my bug report very quickly and told me to put in a reimbursement petition to get my sec refunded.

My question is, how long will this take before sec gets refunded? I have things I can do in losec/0.0 to keep me occupied until this happens but there are some of you that were hisec carebears that are now being forced into either staying docked or going to losec/0.0 where you have no experience and are getting killed.

CCP normally gets these issues out of the way very quickly if it affects people on a mass scale. They won't have much time until it starts affecting their wallets. I have already seen countless threads on this issue with people saying "I'mma quit this f***in' game over this" but NO-ONE has asked when it will get fixed.
Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#2 - 2012-04-28 13:50:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Adriel Malakai
Be4st wrote:
I know CCP is getting ALOT of bug reports/petitions about the "Flashy Red Pod" issue. One of them was mine as I thought I was the only one affected. (a corp mate never got GCC'd for popping a pod). CCP were kind enough to reply to my bug report very quickly and told me to put in a reimbursement petition to get my sec refunded.

My question is, how long will this take before sec gets refunded? I have things I can do in losec/0.0 to keep me occupied until this happens but there are some of you that were hisec carebears that are now being forced into either staying docked or going to losec/0.0 where you have no experience and are getting killed.

CCP normally gets these issues out of the way very quickly if it affects people on a mass scale. They won't have much time until it starts affecting their wallets. I have already seen countless threads on this issue with people saying "I'mma quit this f***in' game over this" but NO-ONE has asked when it will get fixed.


Wait - you're bitching and moaning because you didn't read the indicator in your 'Selected Items' window indicating the sec-status of the pod pilot to be above -5.0, then clicked through the "IF YOU SHOOT THIS YOU WILL BE EXPLODED" window, and then subsequently exploded? You were an idiot and now you want to not have to pay for that mistake? Right....


As a side note, I agree the change was dumb and should be reversed. But the dumbasses who clicked through and shot the pods anyways should not receive a ship or sec status reimbursement.
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#3 - 2012-04-28 13:57:15 UTC
Adriel Malakai wrote:
Wait - you're bitching and moaning because you didn't read the indicator in your 'Selected Items' window indicating the sec-status of the pod pilot to be above -5.0, then clicked through the "IF YOU SHOOT THIS YOU WILL BE EXPLODED" window, and then subsequently exploded? You were an idiot and now you want to not have to pay for that mistake? Right....


If you go back a bit further you'll see that pilots weren't getting the warning due to the time sync bug, those are the pilots waiting for their promised sec status refund.
Be4st
The Abusement Park
#4 - 2012-04-28 14:01:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Be4st
Adriel Malakai wrote:
Wait - you're bitching and moaning because you didn't read the indicator in your 'Selected Items' window indicating the sec-status of the pod pilot to be above -5.0, then clicked through the "IF YOU SHOOT THIS YOU WILL BE EXPLODED" window, and then subsequently exploded? You were an idiot and now you want to not have to pay for that mistake? Right....


As a side note, I agree the change was dumb and should be reversed. But the dumbasses who clicked through and shot the pods anyways should not receive a ship or sec status reimbursement.


I received the warning once and I did not shoot that target. The second time, I just had the "You have engaged in foolish activity" notification dialogue with no CONCORD pop-up and went GCC. I did not disable any pop-up as you cannot suppress the CONCORD dialogue, so I have no idea why it never popped up the second time
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#5 - 2012-04-28 14:04:07 UTC
Rules:

* You can freely kill a pod if the pilot is an outlaw (below -5 sec status)
* You can't kill a pod if the pilot just has a GCC. If you try, you'll get the non-suppressible "Are you sure? CONCORD will wtfpwn you if you do this" dialog

This has always been the case

The Tears Must Flow
Be4st
The Abusement Park
#6 - 2012-04-28 14:07:48 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Nice excuse


read:

Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
If you go back a bit further you'll see that pilots weren't getting the warning due to the time sync bug, those are the pilots waiting for their promised sec status refund.
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#7 - 2012-04-28 14:11:52 UTC
Seriously, this issue was confirmed by a dev to be the result of two operations on the server not communicating the way they should.

In extension, that means those of you jerking off to the OP's plight are either trolling or illiterate, and your posts have too few typos in them for the latter to apply.

Then again, OP, if I were you, I'd think hard about whether the EO forums are the medium that will get you what you want the fastest. You're just making yourself a target here.
Be4st
The Abusement Park
#8 - 2012-04-28 14:23:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Be4st
Sirinda wrote:
Seriously, this issue was confirmed by a dev to be the result of two operations on the server not communicating the way they should.

In extension, that means those of you jerking off to the OP's plight are either trolling or illiterate, and your posts have too few typos in them for the latter to apply.

Then again, OP, if I were you, I'd think hard about whether the EO forums are the medium that will get you what you want the fastest. You're just making yourself a target here.


I know but I have not had a reply from CCP. I even resubmitted my bug report asking this question and they replied with the same "Thank you for reporting. We are already aware of this problem" BS. Its like they never even read my update.

I like feeding the trolls. It shows me how many people cannot read let alone write properly. Maybe they should jack in EvE and go for some games they might understand. ie: www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebiesBig smile
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#9 - 2012-04-28 14:58:16 UTC
Be4st wrote:

I know but I have not had a reply from CCP. I even resubmitted my bug report asking this question and they replied with the same "Thank you for reporting. We are already aware of this problem" BS. Its like they never even read my update.



I think it's going to take CCP awhile to sift through every single one of the petitions and grade who is being a lying F-head about their sec status.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-04-28 15:04:24 UTC
Aside from Harassment and Immediate gameplay issues [ stuck mission ], I would expect a week+ before you get a response.. Probably longer because they are getting flooded with petitions for replacing ships/sec status because of that bug..

Just sit back, relax, and wait :) They will get to you :)
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#11 - 2012-04-28 15:15:28 UTC
Sentinel Smith wrote:

Just sit back, relax, and wait :) They will get to you :)



Some Frankie may assist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyl5DlrsU90

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Sid Hudgens
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-04-28 17:57:24 UTC
I think a big part of the issue is that the "pilot is an outlaw" overview category is no longer accurate. It now includes pilots who are outlaws (ok to pod without concord/sec status hit), as well as pilots who are not outlaws, but have GCC (podding will get you concorded and you will take a 30% sec status hit in jita.)

You should get a popup but the situation is a little confusing now that they have changed the "pilot is an outlaw" status to include anyone with GCC.

"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
Zora'e
#13 - 2012-04-28 17:59:42 UTC
Wait.. I was always under the impression that if the pod was red (flashy or otherwise) it was fair game... Now granted I've been gone for a while and just recently came back.... but did something change?

If so would someone be kind enough to link where this change is listed, because my initial search isn't showing me anything (and two subsequent searches show nothing as well.).

I won't say you are stupid, but you're not exactly on the Zombie menu either.
Zora'e
#14 - 2012-04-28 18:08:02 UTC
Sid Hudgens wrote:
I think a big part of the issue is that the "pilot is an outlaw" overview category is no longer accurate. It now includes pilots who are outlaws (ok to pod without concord/sec status hit), as well as pilots who are not outlaws, but have GCC (podding will get you concorded and you will take a 30% sec status hit in jita.)

You should get a popup but the situation is a little confusing now that they have changed the "pilot is an outlaw" status to include anyone with GCC.


Ahhh that would be the change they made. Seems like they didn't think things through (as usual) when they made this change.

I won't say you are stupid, but you're not exactly on the Zombie menu either.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#15 - 2012-04-28 18:14:37 UTC
Welp, they have 5 hours and 45 minutes to do a hot fix. Lol

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Sid Hudgens
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-04-28 19:00:13 UTC
See this post.

CCP Masterplan wrote:
So here's the rules:
* You can freely kill a pod if the pilot is an outlaw (below -5 sec status)
* You can't kill a pod if the pilot just has a GCC. If you try, you'll get the non-suppressible "Are you sure? CONCORD will wtfpwn you if you do this" dialog
This has always been the case

Normally someone with GCC will show up as red. What changed with Escalation was that we removed a special case in the UI that suppressed this red if they had GCC AND were in a pod. Now someone with GCC will always show up as red, regardless of their ship. However you will stil get punished if you kill a GCC pod BUT only if you click 'Yes' to the CONCORD question.

I do agree this can be a little confusing, and we're looking at adjusting it a little based on feedback such as this.

"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
Vyl Vit
#17 - 2012-04-28 20:51:51 UTC
I lost 8 sec status points just hanging out in an adjacent system trying to get in!

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Be4st
The Abusement Park
#18 - 2012-04-29 17:42:18 UTC
Sid Hudgens wrote:
See this post.

CCP Masterplan wrote:
So here's the rules:
* You can freely kill a pod if the pilot is an outlaw (below -5 sec status)
* You can't kill a pod if the pilot just has a GCC. If you try, you'll get the non-suppressible "Are you sure? CONCORD will wtfpwn you if you do this" dialog
This has always been the case

Normally someone with GCC will show up as red. What changed with Escalation was that we removed a special case in the UI that suppressed this red if they had GCC AND were in a pod. Now someone with GCC will always show up as red, regardless of their ship. However you will stil get punished if you kill a GCC pod BUT only if you click 'Yes' to the CONCORD question.

I do agree this can be a little confusing, and we're looking at adjusting it a little based on feedback such as this.



Yeah I saw that. I just hope from all the "Feedback" they had, they change it back to the way it was before. If I cant shoot it in highsec, I don't want it looking like I can
DaiTengu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-04-29 17:44:40 UTC
I've been suicide ganking in a low-grade crystal set all weekend so far.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#20 - 2012-04-29 17:51:53 UTC
DaiTengu wrote:
I've been suicide ganking in a low-grade crystal set all weekend so far.


Are you wanting a cookie or something ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
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