Wormholes

My thoughts on this is that all aspects in EVE are trial and error to an extent.

Example: (This is dated a bit, bear with me)

You and your little highsec corp get jumpy hearing about the new wormhole mechanic and jump right in to the first empty one you find, last about a couple weeks living off of the scanning knowledge you have and the luck you have been blessed with thus far. Then one day you log on to a gang of Battleships incapping your mods and ransoming you for 100 mil. Then back to highsec you go for a few months before going to null, spending a year or so out there and then moving back into WH, becoming space rich, and by virtue of reading and learning the mechanics, a less trial and error filled experience. Later you go back to null, enjoy a stint in Delve and then after your little failscade alliance, you return to the anoikis for more fun, this time in a C6.

My early on WH experience was FULL of trial and error, and even today you will find yourselves trying new compositions and fleet tactics, this is not exclusive to wormholes, but I believe that trial and error is normal in wormholes. However, the knowledgebase out there can prevent plenty of errors I do agree.

Scrubs are free to ask questions in here, some will be trolled and some will get answers... Such is the way of EVE-O Forums.

ITT elitist wormholers

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The secret lore opened for the masses!!!

Change of plans: I offer now tourist trips through C6 w-space systems and laser cannon training on soulless sleepers for women only. Seniors get a 10% discount.

Redundant.

WH advice is good - More people interested in WH's means more visitors

Ok, but whats a good fit for a drake in a c3????

Yes, I get it. You came late to the party and you have zero explorer spirit in you, zero pioneer spirit, and zero drive to be the first to do something.

I've done those things you list, and many more, and it was at least as rewarding as getting some of the first multibn kills in w-space (certainly not the first, far from it, dunno who had that honor), flying in some of the first T3-fleets, often using setups that are still used by others, or doing some of the first evictions, before they became common and then blasé. Or, as far as I'm aware, the first w-space kill using a Velator :)

Those were the good old days.

It's true wh's are not trial and error today because virtually all the trial and error was done years ago, then documented in the PD, so w-space had all the "unknown" taken out of it, despite it still being called "the unknown".

That's why w-space needs new mechanics, for which you would then need new tricks. And above all, it needs new dangers, new pitfalls, new things that can go wrong.

And it needs more anti-blob mechanics. The ones it has aren't working anymore.

Yesss.

And I don't like you either

What it all comes down to really is you have two side of attitudes to WH corps.

The first side are people that have been hear for years and had to suffer with the lack of information and clarification on things that may or may not be working as intended. These people have learnt and evolved through the experience of living out here and it has sometimes taken the loss of a shine T3 to learn our lessons.

If you where to put a value on this knowledge would need to add together every stupid ship loss that could have been avoided. ( its allot ) And these people are reluctant to pass this info on for free and will disagree with this forum.

The second side are people are like EVE Uni that get there enjoyment from passing hard won information along to new people for next to no gain. They see it as a few have already said as populating an under utilized area of the game, and i don't think you can take to much issue with either attitude after all this is EVE and is why we all play.

But the most important thing to remember is that the people you see posting for advice without looking or thinking for themselves first don't last long in WH's if you show them the way or not. They get board and frustrated and end up in a null blob alliance, people that run training programs in corps see this day in day out and you can usually tell from the first day who has what it takes to live out here.

WH's are hard mode I don't care what people say about it being to safe, if you think its safe you have been lucky until that point and there are people desperate to prove you wrong.

But if your reading CCP we need a Strategic Frig hull please!

We're not elitist.

We're just better.