These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

CCP manipulation of market and GTC
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#1 - 2012-04-27 16:51:37 UTC
So just re-subed and WOW! Have you seen the prices of stuff now?

I was going to buy a GTC to buy a ship as i got nothing and then realised... wait a min, the GTC are selling for 900 mill thats cool, but wait! 900 mill really means about 500 mill when the market prices are taken into consideration.

Is CCPs real reason for manipulating the market by creating this inflation is to increase GTC sales?

..
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#2 - 2012-04-27 16:52:32 UTC
It's not CCP that's messing with the market, it's the players.
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#3 - 2012-04-27 16:54:28 UTC
Don't trust the man! He's out to get you!

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#4 - 2012-04-27 16:54:43 UTC
mxzf wrote:
It's not CCP that's messing with the market, it's the players.

So CCP removing the drone region alloys is not manipulating with the market?

..
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-04-27 16:56:22 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
So CCP removing the drone region alloys is not manipulating with the market?


No, it's fixing it.

Dodixie > Hek
Endear
And Beyond ...
#6 - 2012-04-27 16:59:01 UTC
ma·nip·u·late/məˈnipyəˌlāt/
Verb:

1. Handle or control (a tool, mechanism, etc.), typically in a skillful manner: "he manipulated the dials".
2. Alter, edit, or move (text or data) on a computer.

Did they alter, edit, or move anything on the market? The answer is no
Just Alter
Futures Abstractions
#7 - 2012-04-27 17:00:19 UTC
You're past the tinfoil. you're lead-helmet stage.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-04-27 17:03:26 UTC
Hello. I remember CCP has said that they currently have tools to manipulate the PLEX market but have never used them. They only want to use them to counter any large-scale malicious player attempts to manipulate the PLEX market. At FanFest they said that if they eventually do use these tools, they will justify the usage to the CSM.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#9 - 2012-04-27 17:11:14 UTC
Armadillo helmets are now vogue.

Yes, if you play the day of the month you can net 1.1 billion from a GTC. Spending it now would be a waste. The market is an anarchists dream.

Though it's actually cheaper to fit right now than it has been in years.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#10 - 2012-04-27 17:14:19 UTC
CCP aren't manipulating the markets, players with craploads of isk and/or influence are manipulating the markets for their own gain, nothing that doesn't happen in the real world, working as intended.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#11 - 2012-04-27 17:17:49 UTC
ok thanks for clearing that up guys, i've been away for a while.

..
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#12 - 2012-04-27 17:26:52 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
ok thanks for clearing that up guys, i've been away for a while.


Dunno what you can fly but Command ships are cheaper than Tier 3 battleships and not much more than Tier 2. I use Damnations and Nighthawks because T2 Heavy launchers are dirt cheap as well. They have no zydrine or megacyte in them and very little morphite so they escaped the drone region nerf.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#13 - 2012-04-27 17:31:03 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
So just re-subed and WOW! Have you seen the prices of stuff now?

I was going to buy a GTC to buy a ship as i got nothing and then realised... wait a min, the GTC are selling for 900 mill thats cool, but wait! 900 mill really means about 500 mill when the market prices are taken into consideration.

Is CCPs real reason for manipulating the market by creating this inflation is to increase GTC sales?



It is unclear that decreasing the in game buying power of a GTC, will increase sales of GTCs.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#14 - 2012-04-27 17:32:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
Dear OP, you do know that 1x GTC -> 2xPLEX, right ? Or do you really mean just the recent increase in mineral prices ?
In which case, was in your opinion the introduction of the drone regions followed then by the adjustment of insurance payouts a manipulation in the other direction ? And what would have that served back then ?
If anything, we're closer to early EVE lifetime prices now anyway.

Akita T evewiki profile | | | Build your own EVE-ready PC
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#15 - 2012-04-27 17:37:36 UTC
CCP has nothing to do with plex prices, it's because of inflation
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#16 - 2012-04-27 17:47:53 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Dear OP, you do know that 1x GTC -> 2xPLEX, right ?
Or do you really mean just the recent increase in mineral prices ?
In which case, was in your opinion the introduction of the drone regions followed then by the adjustment of insurance payouts a manipulation in the other direction ? And what would have that served back then ?


WB Akita T, nice to see the sensible posters who know what they're talking about coming back to the fold. Any hints on what I should invest my hard earned in to raise copious amounts of iskies? unless you've already cornered the markets Lol

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#17 - 2012-04-27 18:44:21 UTC
Not really that much around anymore, pretty busy with new job and RL obligations, very little time for EVE left, so haven't been following the latest developments all that closely.
My advice on what to do with your ISK ? You can always do something I did, large and very long term investments at low but decent flat interest rates to people you know from RL that still play EVE. And some leftover stocks from past investments which appreciated even further since :p

Akita T evewiki profile | | | Build your own EVE-ready PC