EVE General Discussion

Its far easy to just post some dumb remark then try to justify it and make it look cool like Mr. H did with his reasonings to start a war. Seriously, it works for masternerdguy so it should work for any game nerd that thinks they are a messiah comming from the promised lands

A hefty long manifesto. I didnt read it all yet but will do so later when i get back from work.
But i would like to point out that the start of this manifesto allready begins with false assumptions.

-Shooting a gun or launching a missile arent the only form of pvp in eve.
-High sec bots werent the sole property of high sec residents.
-Lots of null-low-high-wh space players benefited from those bots but could allways disclaim accauntabillity. You knew where most of the goods came from but since it wasnt you doing the botting it made your consumption oke right ?
-Show me that no one, not residing in high sec, has any complaints about certain gamemechanics .. blobs ? Supers ?

I'll read the rest of you manifesto later today.

Probably because it's brilliantly written, and not a rant. That wasn't a manifesto, it was a god damn Eve bible.

sorry tl;dr most of it... but...

hmm, and why more players damage eve? if the old players keep playing? these carebers some day end up quitting playing or they go to Null or WH-Space and stop being carebers...

it makes no sense hating miners, killing them and skyrocketing the market prices, this makes less people able to afford the game and reduce PVP...

IMO, CCP should nerf hi-sec minning or buff nullsec and make these minners go seek the ore in more dangerous places and join bigger alliances having a role. So CCP should do what they are doing... planetary rings exploration... spreading t2 materials amon them... putting ice gravimetrics everywhere... CCP is on the right path!

I hate when ppl only like 1 part of the game and wants to ruin all the others... COEXIST!!! There are manny diferent playstyles, this is a sandbox... we don't blame nor judge you for killing deffenseless ships (maybe yes, we do) but if it is your play style, I just hope that you have fun, there is nothing that we can do about it... (and I hope your playstyle get nerfed by CCP again, as they increase mining barges tank, making lots of industrials happier and you more angry =D) ...

Well... i'm going to dock my combat ship pick my minning barge and mine something... lol

The OP's post is both hilarious and sad at the same time. Hilarious because of the pure zealotry involved (not a bad thing) and sad because he's right.

Well written, very amusing and too true.

To the OP: revel in their hate- everyone who is disparaging your posts are carebears/botters themselves.

both sides are asking CCP to change/remove/nerf/buff they way the other side plays the game.

everyone is a hypocrite.

No, actually. I agreed with the miners when they wanted better tanks for hulks. It's stupid that they can't fit a tank equivalent to other medium T2 ships. They have no hardpoints and tiny drone bays so it's not like they'll suddenly become uber combat ships. I also think high sec income should be nerfed severely. I haven't mined since the beginning of Eve, but when I did, I did it in a 0.2. I'm all for miners getting all the buffs they want. Believe it or not it's possible to be a miner who isn't a carebear. I'd love if they doubled the income from arkanor in fact. I do, however, want to nerf the **** out of carebears of all kinds and won't be happy until high sec income is appropriate for the newbie area that it is. I'd like level 3 mission income to be cut in half and level 4 missions and incursions to be moved to low sec.

Give the tier one barge a boost to ehp. Want to mine safely? Mine at less than 1/3rd the rate. Want to mine efficiently? grab the hulk and get crackin.

When was the last time non-consensual PvP got a buff?

Now think of all the "features" CCP have introduced over the years that allow you to avoid that PvP.

tl;dr but Im sure you're wrong on every single point.