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How highsec miners threaten EVE, and how we can stop them. Manifesto II.

First post
Flash Morden
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2012-04-27 02:25:24 UTC
History in the making. On a random Friday in April James 315 invented MEGA shiptoasting. God help us all.
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#42 - 2012-04-27 02:25:33 UTC
I think OP is following me.
Mathias Hex
#43 - 2012-04-27 02:29:35 UTC
When can we expect the next 10 chapters?

I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.

DIsposible Hero
State War Academy
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-04-27 02:32:18 UTC
What is this I don't even.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
#45 - 2012-04-27 02:37:48 UTC
How is this obvious rant not locked yet are the mods on vacation?

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game

Mercantile and Stuff
#46 - 2012-04-27 02:41:15 UTC
Jeez....I hope there isn't going to be a quiz on this.

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-04-27 02:41:53 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
How is this obvious rant not locked yet are the mods on vacation?

The last one wasn't locked either.
Evalin Black
#48 - 2012-04-27 02:42:55 UTC
James 315 wrote:
But having tasted the delicious flesh of an Orca, and having savored the most delectable pods that they conceal within...It's ruined me for the less-exotic carebear hulls. To understand, one must review the killmail of a freshly-popped capsule, one ripened to its fullest extent, nearly bursting with its list of strange and wonderful implants. It is an experience that must be taken in slowly and thoughtfully, like enjoying a fine wine.

Reading that made my belly grumble and my mouth water, tasty pods, mmm.

On a serious note I enjoyed the read and I think many valid points made, I think for many that have played this game richly over the years it is apparent that there is a very vocal army of bears that are out to make this game wow in space. How many years did we have insurance on suicide gankings, yet once the goons did something for a few weeks suddenly it gets nerfed for the future of the game. One can only guess what nerfs will be incoming after the the jita weekend and hulkageddon.

Liandri Corporation
#49 - 2012-04-27 02:48:22 UTC
High-Sec Mining Killed Null-Sec PvP? ... I unfortunately took the time to read it all, was kinda like walking up a hill - half way up was thinking "God I wish I hadn't started this!"

But despite the sheer number of words, I'm still REALLY unclear as to the connection.
While I'm not a huge fan of a certain breed of miner (as in, one that believes it is the only aspect of EVE) honestly, their solutions to help maintain a healthy economy through their own personal weird greed helps PvP by reducing the prices of ships meaning those of us who can't spend our entirely lives online doing the mundane missions and crap can afford to still get in something relatively shiny and have some fun.

Goons and Test on the other hand, are destroying most players abilities to even afford the smaller ships with their recent "Kill any miner that moves" Campaign. This is inversely actually putting off a good number of people who just began playing because everything was quite expensive (from their point of view, try earning from Level 1 missions for a week!) to begin with; Frigates along have increased nearly 100% in price in 3months.

I'm not sure how they're helping anything but actually destroying peoples abilities to play, we will get to a point where the only people who can afford to PvP are going to be Alliances and those Miners that they're killing.

Can't help but feel that someone doesn't understand the word Ironic.
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2012-04-27 02:49:02 UTC
Ziranda Hakuli
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-04-27 03:05:27 UTC

Long winded butt hole who wishes to hear one speak.
CCP when can admin stuff to lock down idiots?
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-04-27 03:07:57 UTC
And here I thought Low/Null PvP killed itself by not being fun enough for others to actually participate. Something about station camping while talking smack just doesn't seem fun.
Asuri Kinnes
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-04-27 03:07:59 UTC
O.P.: Never, ever, post again.

Play the game, quit typing.


Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

State War Academy
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-04-27 03:21:22 UTC
That is a lucid, intelligent, well-thought out objection

Bail denied and you are here by remanded to Concord Mental Health Institution.
You will not be eligible for parole back into high-sec for at least 20 Years.
May you find solace in the emptiness of 0.0 Space.

Court Adjourned
#55 - 2012-04-27 03:51:34 UTC
I hope that no one will object if I offer to OP my most enthusiastic contrafibularities.

... Each small candle Lights a corner of the dark...

The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
#56 - 2012-04-27 03:55:10 UTC
Mentorm wrote:
Too Long Didn't Read

no ****
Aggressive Nutmeg
#57 - 2012-04-27 04:01:57 UTC
Can someone read this and give me a one-sentence summary?

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.

Corbin Blair
#58 - 2012-04-27 04:10:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Corbin Blair
I can't believe I actually read all that. Holy crap do you have way too much time on your hands. I agree with every word of it though and CCP needs to take a look at this if they don't want Eve to go down in flames like post-CU/NGE Starwars Galaxy.

Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:
Can someone read this and give me a one-sentence summary?

Carebear miners are winning the propaganda war with CCP and the game has been getting more carebear, particularly high sec.
Karn Dulake
#59 - 2012-04-27 04:17:56 UTC
I read three pages of this horseshit and gave up.

personally i thought that the CSM were all nullsec people and they were the voice of the people but it turns out that there is a secret cabal that all high sec miners are a part of threatening CCP to do their will

Also OP please do the following

1. go to the doctor and tell him about your suicidal thoughts (this is not a troll CCP)
2. change your social life to include real people
3. Girlfriend is needed but never talk to her about EVE
4. Quit this game for a few months and go outside and walk barefoot on the grass
5. If you cant get a job then try to get some retraining,
6. Worst post ever and the only likes you got were from your alts

Good luck and get some help
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Creed Richards
Deep Stellar Coalition Enterprises
Silent Company
#60 - 2012-04-27 04:19:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Creed Richards
How do you propose to make up for the resource shortfalls that would inevitably result if high-sec mining was completely interdicted. This activity you speak so many words to condemn is the foundation which all the activities you praise rest. Sooner or later, someone has to sit down and fire up the mining lasers. Thus, since actually paying attention to said activity is equivalent to watching paint dry, it's useful for ones sanity and productivity to be doing something else.

However, what you say is not completely without merit. To be quite frank, I think it would be awesome is all sec status below .8 was low sec (with exception to gate areas). But certain balances would have to counteract the increased conflict, and still offer some means for the miner to do something else while maintaining the foundations of industry (remember: watching mining = watching paint dry). I don't have time to go into any sort of details (barely baked at this point), other than I remember when I first joined the game and started in low sec right away there was a community there while not officially allied more or less looked out for each other. We could enjoy mining in relative security.

My 2 cents