EVE General Discussion

Although I have played off-and-on for a few years, I have never posted before on the forums. So, be gentle - LOL..

My main account (Caldari) General Shogun has just under 20 million skill points. My "main" rig is a Raven with which I run security-type missions. Almost all my skills are in missiles and shield/passive/active tanking with a touch of drone knowledge

My second account (Amarr), which my son now uses to fly with me, is mainly a miner (Hulk, Ice Miner, etc.), same amount of skill points. This account also has some manufacturing capabilites which we used a couple of years ago to turn out products in our own structure...I cannot remember much of what we did though, or even if it is even important to know. So my son would have something to do with me, we outfitted a Harbinger with some lasers and drones to follow my Raven around...although it is pitifully weak

So there's my background...a pure carebear existence. Both my son and I are bored stiff, but still want to FIND something to love about Eve

[i]We basically would want to function as a team and want to be a blank palette to your suggestions.[/i

Do we seek a corporation to join and stay in carebear world? Head to low-sec? Find out what surveying and mining a planet is about (that did not exist when I first got my Hulk)? Trade? We are open to almost anything

I will say this...we are tired of playing it safe, but the idea of hunting another player/victim for hours on end seems even more boring (please note, I am fully aware that my idea of what this constitutes may be WAY off)

Finally I am used to, and have enjoyed, both spectrums of MMO's...WoW (ultimate carebear) and Darkfall (ultimate PvP)

Thanks for reading and my son and I anxiously await your ideas

-Sho

also with your setup you could also do the exploration missions . rather well and probably make good isk at it .

of course this would lead to the aforementioned worm holes which would be even more exciting (just be careful not to turn your son into a slave trying to get this isk up for setting up a pos in wh space)

Personally, if you want a challenge, aren't planning on running a bunch of alts, then train for T2 cruisers and run exploration.

I have done that for a long time solo. It can be very fun, plus something you can have the feeling and caution of risk but still maintain pve if that is your thing. Here is how it goes and how I got started.

1. Have one person run a utility scout ship. This contains salvage gear, etc. A covert ops works very well in that it can probe down the sites and do all that stuff while the other can run combat (perhaps the industrial character to train). This character also checks gates as you move around, set up safespots etc.

2. Second ship you get a combat ship that has a spare highslot you can put on the cloak. Some hate the cloakers, but they are necessary for survival. I started by using an armageddon myself, but a raven should work too, it has the spare high. Set it for speed combat. Afterburner and some nano over strong shield boosting. This will help you get off gate, and do combat sites. Remember, I ran these solo in. So I would scout and scan with my Anathema, swap ships in the border system then go with my other ship. scout makes it so much better. I also had a phantasm I used.

3. Train for T2 cruisers. If you can both get into force recons, then both can fly the combat roles. How you fit is up to you. The ability to split the utility duties maintains effective combat abilities. For this I ran pilgrim solo in lowsec effectively. With two force recons, you can have salvager, probe launcher, and your codebreaker/analyser while still remaining effective. Plan for lower dps but longer range combat since tanking tougher sites and npcs is tougher.

4. When you get T3, then it really shines, and more choose what sites you like doing the best. If you like the combat sites, then keep to low and follow the expeditions, they tend to head to null. If you prefered the survey sites, head straight to null.

It is extremely excellent fun. The best part, though also sometimes frustrating part is the isk. You might not make any money, then strike it rich because it all comes down to what you find. For small or solo pve, exploration can be the most enjoyable.

Edit: Most importantly, before heading out, set up a podsave tab. This is a tab that has only celestials you can warp to just in case your ship is about to die. just select tab, click anything and spam warp to. Also be very sure you know how to set up your d-scan to look for other ships and probes so you can tell if any new faces to a system are trying to scan you. In which case you cloak up.

Wow...thanks to everyone!

This is exactly the kind of advice my son and I were looking for!

Thanks so much and feel free to add anything else you may think of...we will take this advice to heart and utilize it to the utmost of our ability.

-Sho

wormholes are fun but they to tend to get you cabin fever. With shared bookmarks it now is less so I guess.

Still a good WH corp or a good small alliance corp can be fun if you find the right people.

Nice to see you are going the WH route. I have always had the most fun in WH's myself.

For your son, it's great that he is going probing and scanning but when it boils down to it. They do a pile of the work in WH's but depending on the corp they might get none of the payout. Probing and scanning can be fun for some people but when your marking out signatures in a WH it gets boring.

My suggestion is once he has the scanning skills tell him to turn his training to combat. This will give him something else to do in the hole other then sit there and make book marks all day. It can be fun tho as a scanner to bounce around different holes finding targets. Although you said he has good mining/industry skills. Depending on the WH some have ABC ores in them which are worth a nice chunk. Also gas clouds which pay out insanely well for the time spent harvesting. If he already has mining he should be able to train gas harvesting quickly.

For yourself, it depends on the fleets that they fly possibly what type of worm hole they live in. Some worm holes have negative shield effects if they live in one of those I can see why they would want you to have an armor tanked ship. Personally I both types of ships in the WH I frequent. Shield for smaller fleets and armor for cap escalations. You also might want to train up gas harvesting so you can have multiple ships working on 1 cloud. As well you are also going to want to eventually get your scanning skills up.

Worm holes are fun they just can be alot of work.

Update:

After taking into all the above into consideration, reading the through the links, and talking with corpmates, I *think* I am going to train towards:

Me --> Nighthawk
My son --> Anathema

Both will take ~3 more weeks of training...no too bad at all. I'll just crack rocks in the meantime.

Once in our T2s (I'll have T1s already setup ready to go as backups), I figure we'll start with the class 1 WHs to learn to work the ships and together as efficiently as possible. From there, quickly (hopefully) work our way up to class 3, at which time we can join our corpmates in their endeavors.

Thanks so much guys and feel free to comment if you think my ship selection(s) are no good.

*salute*

-Sho

My son and I are moving into our corps WH this weekend, and it just hit me...any reason I shouldn't bring my Raven along as well?

I used to think like you about harbis- but then I took 848 dps to the knee....