EVE General Discussion

So in other words... The rule is in force to stop people shooting bots, and to let the bot owner continue safely?

If someone there sees a bot, the whinge to the bosses who tell them to **** off and may tell the bot owner to move it to another system for a week or 2 maybe... nice.

No drama at all.

Certainly, assuming CCP delivers Establishments on time as promised (though I dont think anyone's holding their breath)! We will dine on genetically enhanced livestock steaks and long-limb roes, the classic New Eden surf n turf.

No, you don't have to be a goon. But if you'd like to join, since clearly I'm an authorized Goon alt / agent / fluffer, than you can send 100 million isk to me directly, and I'll wave your application through in record time!

Quite the repeating topic i'ld say.

As long as the game facilitates the option to run bots to gain an advantage ingame for various reasons, it will never end.
The whole bot reporting, hunting them down, collecting data, dabating actions etc is a terrible waste of resources better spend on more productive aspects of the game that could use a bit of attention.

Now if you would alter the settings so that running a bot programm would be quite useless, not serve any useable benefit, then you have it dealt with.

Untill then, point away your fingers in any directions you like, file your nobel petitions, go on a crusade on the forums.
You wont stop it, never.

But ask yourself this. Would you set out to do their monotomous "chores" in their place ?
Would you go out and obtain those minerals yourself ?
Would you pay more for hard to aquire faction loot ?
Would you actually work together to build all those super dooper oversized space taxies ?

If yes, then welcome to eve as it should be.
If no .. carry on with your crusade to fight the windmills.

Because goons are dumb. Goons are also sneaky. And contrary. If you tell them to be sneaky they will be obvious. If you tell them not do something, they will still do it but they will be sneaky.

Also, Endie is a certified goodposter, he makes good posts. Sometimes making good posts means massaging the text to get the reaction(s) you want. Remember that these "internal" updates aren't leaked, we send them to evenews24, kugu, SA, etc., ourselves.




It is hilarious. One goon sees a funny thread, and mentions it in chat. Other goons go look, because we like funny threads. And we love attention. <3 Thanks.

Good. Reaction. Achieved.


My dastardly plan has been thwarted. I was really hoping my post would sneak under your radar.

Hey... errmmm..... thanks too. You guys have actually been a big help. Really.

posting in the botting immunity thread

lol this thread isnt locked yet?

What many people fail to realize is that alliances like the GSF, TEST and ESG all come from communities outside the game. They are not EvE online communities, but only minor subsets of much larger communities which span many games and many aspects of real life. Our strength comes from these communities, because we are held together by something more than our sov, our moons or our killboard stats. To report a bot, or someone who is in some way breaking the rules of a game played by the community, is placing that game above the greater community as a whole - your priorities are out of line. This weakens the community. I hate botting and rmt, but I would never report an alliance member as that would be putting a game ahead of the community.

In many (but not all) other alliances, the only thing people have in common with each other is they play an internet spaceship game and don't really care if they report each other. They are weak because they are only a collection of people with really nothing in common to hold them together, except maybe their sov. But if they lose this, they are prone to fly apart much as R.A.G.E. or Majesta Empire did.

What weakens the community more is when you start to depend on botting as part of the game, and then that booting gets taken away from you.

Your community's presence in the game will be stronger and more meaningful if they can play the game without cheating.

Botting is a cancer that is weakening your community. You should report botting sooner rather than later, otherwise you are allowing the cancer to set in, and eventually when that cancer is cut out by the people running the game, your community will lose valuable members along with the cancer.

While there are certainly botters in our community, it's quite a stretch to imply in any way we depend on botting. If all bots were instantly gone tomorrow, most of us wouldn't even notice.