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Mark Androcius
#1 - 2012-04-25 10:48:05 UTC
Ok, there have been lots of posts, asking for the reopening of the EVE gate and thereby adding a new faction ( Terran/earthlings )

The problem with that though, is that either they evolved WAY much further then the other factions, or they completely died out, both instances cause the reopening of the EVE gate to be useless


So..... what could be done in stead

Let's say that, far before the wormhole to New Eden was discovered, the Terrans launched an immense fleet of ships, in search of new galaxy's

That fleet of ships, after spending thousands of years traveling and therefore housing many generations of people, ultimately overpopulating the fleet, suddenly ends up in an unexplored part of New Eden and decides to settle there for a while ( unaware they are only a few light years away from other lifeforms, ie us )

After about a year of adjusting to the new situation and modifying their technology to work with the new minerals available to them, a deep space scan reveals that they are not alone in this galaxy and send out a scouting party


Ok, let's imagine this could work ok

In the period leading to the unveiling of this new faction ( the months before adding them to the game ), players can sporadically encounter their mysterious ships, over time having more and more encounters, until the faction is finally fully discovered, a fact which will be covered in a giant news article ( in game of course )

Then the update happens and you can actually play with them

The advantage of doing it this way is that, because the fleet set off long before EVE happened, their technology is comparable to the rest of the factions
It adds to the game RP ( which some players actually enjoy )


Let me know what you think.

Cheers,

Mark

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Mark Androcius
#2 - 2012-04-25 13:21:25 UTC
Hmmm, 23 reads and no replies.
Does this mean it's so good, words can't describe it?
Or does that mean my fantasy is to far fetched?

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mxzf
Shovel Bros
#3 - 2012-04-25 13:26:28 UTC
It means that the 'Terran issue' is all in your head because there's no issue at all. The game is already working perfectly fine and there's no need to try and add stuff into the game just to shoehorn Earthlings into the game for no real reason.

And 23 reads and 0 likes means that the idea is bad and people are just too lazy to troll it this early in the morning.
Callic Veratar
#4 - 2012-04-25 13:34:57 UTC
Fortunately for you, it's never too early for mxzf to troll. :D
Mark Androcius
#5 - 2012-04-25 13:35:27 UTC
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#6 - 2012-04-25 13:37:17 UTC
Callic Veratar wrote:
Fortunately for you, it's never too early for mxzf to troll. :D

Nah, I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. But it's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings, lol.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#7 - 2012-04-25 15:17:57 UTC
mxzf wrote:
Callic Veratar wrote:
Fortunately for you, it's never too early for mxzf to troll. :D

Nah, I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. But it's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings, lol.

I hope you don't mind, but I believe I just found myself a new signature quote.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#8 - 2012-04-25 17:52:16 UTC
I like the idea. Anything that adds to the storyline is really cool.

HOWEVER...

As many will not hesitate to point out, really cool is not nearly a good enough reason to have something in EVE.

Unless or until the solution to a problem is best solved by adding to the game this way, (HUGE amount of content, a 25% increase in ship models if done as a fully expressed racial presence)

I think DUST, and it's consequences, would make that possibility something we won't be seeing any time soon.

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Mark Androcius
#9 - 2012-04-25 19:02:52 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:
I like the idea. Anything that adds to the storyline is really cool.

HOWEVER...

As many will not hesitate to point out, really cool is not nearly a good enough reason to have something in EVE.

Unless or until the solution to a problem is best solved by adding to the game this way, (HUGE amount of content, a 25% increase in ship models if done as a fully expressed racial presence)

I think DUST, and it's consequences, would make that possibility something we won't be seeing any time soon.


Yeah i think you're spot on with the Dust part.

I really feel a lot of people ( especially on this forum ) don't realize the value of RP ( role play ) to any game, especially EVE.
Or the lore of the game, which is something PROVEN to be key to a successful game.

It may not matter to most of the current EVE players ( or at least forum EVE'rs ), but it IS definitely something that draws a lot of players into the game and once in the game, it definitely keeps them interested.

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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#10 - 2012-04-25 19:14:05 UTC
All 4 races are Terran though. Our ancestors were all colonists who came from the New Eden system Wormhole. The way I understand the lore the only race native to New Eden is Jove.
Mark Androcius
#11 - 2012-04-25 19:26:54 UTC
Skydell wrote:
All 4 races are Terran though. Our ancestors were all colonists who came from the New Eden system Wormhole. The way I understand the lore the only race native to New Eden is Jove.


I know ( you're wrong about the Jove though ), but it beats the hell out of an alien race if you ask me, who would want a green 4 headed avatar with 12 tentacles?


The Jove are also Terran of origin, they were just smart ( although the lore claims it was luck ) to bring the right equipment with them, so they could build up, whereas the other factions didn't have the tools to deal with the wormhole collapse and therefore couldn't maintain their tech ( they couldn't yet mine the new minerals and adjust their tech to work with those minerals ).

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HARD STEEL
Caldari Capital Construction Company
#12 - 2012-04-25 19:31:05 UTC  |  Edited by: HARD STEEL
not to mention they are currently working through v3'ing existing ship models, they want to upgrade to v4 for this new graphics stuff AND maybe they will continue down the road of redoing tech 2 ships. a new playable faction probably wont be on the table for years

this could be a good lore expansion tho, and on that thread, sooner than later maybe we could play as sleepers or fly the direct sleeper ships.

a hilarious thing though would be if terrans came through and they were actually flying the original v1 ship models from years ago

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#13 - 2012-04-25 19:33:09 UTC
Skydell wrote:
All 4 races are Terran though. Our ancestors were all colonists who came from the New Eden system Wormhole. The way I understand the lore the only race native to New Eden is Jove.


nope, they're Terran too.

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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#14 - 2012-04-25 19:49:10 UTC
If all 5 races are terran in origin, New Eden was not populated by natural intelligent life. Still, if I had a vision of a "new Race" I would rather it be NPC and Sentient Drone in origin. One that in fact took the place of Incursion. Sentient Drones invading New Eden with no morality, no hidden agenda, no grudge. Just the systematic program to destroy anything in front of it. A Borg of EVE that relied on our own Drones to defend us from and one that could assimilate those drones if we din't have our capsules control them at higher levels.

Drone wars.
Mark Androcius
#15 - 2012-04-25 19:53:17 UTC
Skydell wrote:
If all 5 races are terran in origin, New Eden was not populated by natural intelligent life. Still, if I had a vision of a "new Race" I would rather it be NPC and Sentient Drone in origin. One that in fact took the place of Incursion. Sentient Drones invading New Eden with no morality, no hidden agenda, no grudge. Just the systematic program to destroy anything in front of it. A Borg of EVE that relied on our own Drones to defend us from and one that could assimilate those drones if we din't have our capsules control them at higher levels.

Drone wars.


Hmmmm, sounds interesting

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Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#16 - 2012-04-25 20:06:47 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
Skydell wrote:
If all 5 races are terran in origin, New Eden was not populated by natural intelligent life. Still, if I had a vision of a "new Race" I would rather it be NPC and Sentient Drone in origin. One that in fact took the place of Incursion. Sentient Drones invading New Eden with no morality, no hidden agenda, no grudge. Just the systematic program to destroy anything in front of it. A Borg of EVE that relied on our own Drones to defend us from and one that could assimilate those drones if we din't have our capsules control them at higher levels.

Drone wars.


Hmmmm, sounds interesting

I understand how trek is well known and all that, but you might find a much better analogy in literature.

Fred Saberhagen wrote a series of books about machines, the berserker series, where automated self replicating robots were attacking anything that amounted to organic life.

They sterilized planets into lifeless objects.

Long story short, they were left over doomsday weapons from an alien war, one that had backfired and destroyed it's creator race after wiping out the enemy it had been programmed to.
They just kept roaming through space after that war, sterilizing planets, mindlessly following their programming.
This is the part when they encounter mankind, also spreading out in space, and launched an all out war on us.

THAT could be interesting, as a possibility for what the drones are up to. It would also explain their hostility towards others.

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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#17 - 2012-04-26 10:55:11 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Mark Androcius wrote:
Skydell wrote:
If all 5 races are terran in origin, New Eden was not populated by natural intelligent life. Still, if I had a vision of a "new Race" I would rather it be NPC and Sentient Drone in origin. One that in fact took the place of Incursion. Sentient Drones invading New Eden with no morality, no hidden agenda, no grudge. Just the systematic program to destroy anything in front of it. A Borg of EVE that relied on our own Drones to defend us from and one that could assimilate those drones if we din't have our capsules control them at higher levels.

Drone wars.


Hmmmm, sounds interesting

I understand how trek is well known and all that, but you might find a much better analogy in literature.

Fred Saberhagen wrote a series of books about machines, the berserker series, where automated self replicating robots were attacking anything that amounted to organic life.

They sterilized planets into lifeless objects.

Long story short, they were left over doomsday weapons from an alien war, one that had backfired and destroyed it's creator race after wiping out the enemy it had been programmed to.
They just kept roaming through space after that war, sterilizing planets, mindlessly following their programming.
This is the part when they encounter mankind, also spreading out in space, and launched an all out war on us.

THAT could be interesting, as a possibility for what the drones are up to. It would also explain their hostility towards others.


This sounds like what might happen if the Sleepers met the Rogue Drones...

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