EVE General Discussion

I said SREEGS

Way to go Goons. Forum bots as well now?

You have some contorted idea of what an EULA is for. It's for limiting CCP's liability if they ban you or refuse service to you. It's not a list of their internal laws.

Here's an official GSF response to your post: dwi.

01000010 01101100 01100001 01100011 01101011 00100000 01000001 01110000 01101111 01110011 01110100 01101100 01100101 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100001 00100000 01000111 01101111 01101111 01101110 00101101 01100001 01101100 01110100 00101110 00100000 01011001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110110 01100101 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01100010 01100101 01100101 01101110 00100000 01110100 01110010 01101111 01101100 01101100 01100101 01100100 00101110

beep boop I am a bot

Nope, not the end. Your conceit is just that - conceit. I am a non goon, never been a goon, but you sir do NOT speak for all of us. Your bias couldn't be more clear, and it calls into question YOUR statements as well.

As to the believability of Goonswarm or its entities, you just have to take everything with a grain of salt. I've listened to Mittani's interviews, blogs, and statements from various Goon authorities - and while I'd never say, attempt to buy a supercarrier from them without using Chribba escrow, or believe them if they said I had to pay 100 million isk to join their alliance, there is a whole lot that goons, especially the CSM, say that is quite verifiable from plenty of other sources. I just think its shortsighted and disrespectful to say that everything that comes out of every goon mouth is a lie. That kind of rhetoric doesnt help anyone.

Many of the goons are good sports about realizing that this is a just a game, and while they may play the game ruthlessly on the server, many make an effort to separate in-character deceit and treachery (which is normal gameplay), and their statement made objectively about the game in general when discussing mechanics on the forums and such. A lot of us are smart enough and willing to take the time and listen to know the difference, i'm sorry that you need to categorize, simplify, and treat them all the same.



I have a functioning brain stem, and I use it to observe and make judgements about the state of the game as well. I've been playing the game for two years, lived and operated in just about every slice of space from Jita to the the fringes of 0.0. Faction Warfare is my home and my primary activity, but I travel extensively, in pursuit of pew pew and some of the lootable resources that can only be found in 0.0. To this day, I have yet to observe ANY evidence of players using bots, and certainly not on any kind of scale. I still don't see what the big deal is, honestly there are enough players that rat, mine, and pew for 16 out of 24 hours (the others being devoted to sleep), so economically I could care less if someone uses a bot to automate income for the other 8. Its cheesy, and I hope they die in a fire and lose any implants they're stupid enough to bot in, but I fail to seem them or their hobbies as being a game-destroying factor on any kind of massive scale.

I say if you really want to police activity in-game, go do it!! Form a bot posse and spend all your time hunting bots. Take notes, post evidence to people like me that doubt this is a major scourge on New Eden, and report them to the authorities. But if you're too lazy to do that, than you can't than whine because another group in the game isn't doing that. The Goon leadership's statements seem pretty reasonable to me, just as CCP's security policy seems also reasonable. (Go ahead, say it, its not the first time I've been called a goon alt or CCP alt. )

We have this issue in militia too - whether or not to shoot purples that are causing trouble. Or that are engaging in questionable behavior. Going crazy and shooting purples or blues because of SUSPECTED, unverifiable, actions, cause far more diplomatic headaches than it does solve problems. It's a knee-jerk reaction solution to problem pilots that has implications that end up affecting a lot of innocent people in the process.

If you see botting, report it. If you're not around to see it, don't whine that others arent spending all their time policing it. Or better yet, provide some concrete evidence that "it" actually exists on a massive scale.

There are soooooo many issues that are in plain sight that need fixing right now, going on a witchhunt ghostbuster campaign against a phantom threat just seems like a major waste of time when there is a system in place to deal with these matters. Even more of a waste of time is a campaign against others who aren't out also campaigning to hunt ghosts.

1. No.
2. They can address whatever they like internally.
3. Your evidence for this is weak - you are putting your filters on things and presenting them as facts. Nowhere in the original post by "Endie" does it say botters will be harboured or supported.

Seerg was pretty clear: Give them proof of organised eula flouting and they will take action.

I wallow in poop.

Fixed that for ya, mate