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CCP: Serious question about settings/core_xxx.dat files
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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-04-22 17:48:11 UTC
Client stores settings to various files in settings folder.
Some of these files are in plain text format, but most are crypted/truncated with your "own" software.

Is there any real valid reason why all settings files could not be in plain text format.

This would make it much easier for us multi client users to create settings templates which can be pretty much copy pasted between characters and would save us tons of time.

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leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-04-22 18:52:35 UTC
you don't really need to do that. what I did was I logged in with my main, set up the settings as I wanted them, then logged out. noted the numbers created. logged in as my alt, then immediately logged out. made a copy of my mains settings file and renamed it to be the same as my alt setting file after deleting the original alt settings. rinse and repeat for as many alts as you need.
with this you will log in and all your settings will be identical.
then just copy the contents of the settings directory over to the settings directory of any other client you want to use. this will let you have the same settings on all characters across any clients you have installed.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-04-22 19:21:44 UTC
leviticus ander wrote:
you don't really need to do that. what I did was I logged in with my main, set up the settings as I wanted them, then logged out. noted the numbers created. logged in as my alt, then immediately logged out. made a copy of my mains settings file and renamed it to be the same as my alt setting file after deleting the original alt settings. rinse and repeat for as many alts as you need.
with this you will log in and all your settings will be identical.
then just copy the contents of the settings directory over to the settings directory of any other client you want to use. this will let you have the same settings on all characters across any clients you have installed.

I am aware of this, but would like to make a template - not have identical settings/data on all accounts.

Dunno if you have gone through the files, there are plenty of junk you don't want to overwrite. As long it is rather impossible to replace/modify only part of the files, the problem remains.

One example:

1. CCP adds new neocom.
2. User configures the neocom on one client.
3. User wants to use same settings on all clients, but doesn't want to overwrite any typing history data.
4. User has to manually configure all the clients, because settings files are a mess.

Other example:

1. CCP changes the user interface and windows somehow.
2. User repositions windows on one client.
3. User wants to use same window positions on all clients, but doesn't want to mess with other data.
4. User has to manually configure all the clients, because settings files are a mess.

... you get the point.

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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#4 - 2012-04-22 19:37:30 UTC
I'd quite like to see some real in-game support for multiboxers, like exporting all settings to a new character automatically. Hell, maybe even tying together a few characters wallets, with a corp-style wallet made for your personal alts.

For a game that forces players to rely so heavily on multiboxing there really is very little support for it. I read something on CCP "master accounts" a while back, not even sure if its still being worked on now :(

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-04-23 19:45:54 UTC
...and top you go

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Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#6 - 2012-04-23 20:09:17 UTC
+1.

I've had this request in my forum.sig for a few months now.

Please support: export of settings in editable format

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Psychic Sue
The Executives
#7 - 2012-04-24 01:05:41 UTC
From a programming POV, in CCP's setup of how things work, it might be easier to store this data in binary objects to easily load them instead of constantly converting them to and from pure ASCII to save and load them form.

In the end this is a question of programming paradigms, neither of them is really faster or safer, it might just be legacy code, distributed over hundreds of files and not worth changing and investing dozens of hours of programming at the current time.