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Nerfing local intel in high/low/null
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Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#1 - 2012-04-16 20:03:54 UTC
Had some ideas for making local less of a '100% accurate intel tool'.. Let me know your thoughts:

supposition: 'local' was intended to be a reflection of the 'port authority' .. enabling traffic controller at gates and stations to advise via navbeacon broadcast what pod pilots / immortals are present in a system.

proposed changes:

- vessels entering a system via cynosaural field should not appear in local, as they do not pass by traffic control, until they dock/undock or jump a gate
- vessels entering local via a wormhole should not appear in local until they dock/undock or jump a gate, as they did not pass by traffic control
- dust 514 players in system should appear in local.

this would serously undermine local from being the silly intel tool it is now, as 'who is in system' would have a degree of uncertainty to it.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#2 - 2012-04-16 20:38:58 UTC
So what if someone logs in in system?

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#3 - 2012-04-16 20:43:02 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
So what if someone logs in in system?

At a guess, the local listing could have no way of knowing this, so it would either expire after a time period, or persist until downtime

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Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#4 - 2012-04-16 20:50:49 UTC
I'd say if they log in in a station then they appear in local, if they log in space and were known before, they show, if they were unknown they won't

there's a hundred 'what if' scenarios that sprout out of this suggestion, like any other, of course :)

actually, i think putting dust players in local may even be enough..
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-04-16 21:44:14 UTC
I would like to not have D514 players clogging up my local. KTHXBAI
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-16 22:06:44 UTC
Local isn't 100% accurate, all you have...is a name / corp and exit / enter system status. You don't know what they are flying, you don't know if they are AFK, and you certainly don't know what they are doing. So...its working as intended...its a chat channel with icons that indicate a presense of someone entering the room and you have to "ban" them back to the med clone.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#7 - 2012-04-16 22:26:53 UTC
Hmm, could be interesting using this mechanic to cyno in black ops fleets. Get a cyno 5 spy into an enemy alliance, blops a fleet into a deep safe.... Lolz shall be had.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2012-04-17 13:09:26 UTC
Aqriue wrote:
Local isn't 100% accurate, all you have...is a name / corp and exit / enter system status. You don't know what they are flying, you don't know if they are AFK, and you certainly don't know what they are doing. So...its working as intended...its a chat channel with icons that indicate a presense of someone entering the room and you have to "ban" them back to the med clone.


If you lived in low/null you would know it is not working as intended.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#9 - 2012-04-17 13:37:54 UTC
Chandaris wrote:
If you lived in low/null you would know it is not working as intended.

Actually, it's working exactly as intended. I think a better question would be, is there a better way for it to work?

Giving all the tactical advantage to those who travel by cyno and jump bridge is a bad idea. Either turn off local, or leave it as is.

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