EVE General Discussion

Off topic:
I would LOVE to see mining in EVE to be like that...
You shoot roid, it brakes in smaller roids and then by only by color of that parts of that parts, in space, you see which parts to mine/scoop and which not.

been at this game for over 6 years now.. I recently went to STO for a bit of a break Since it's good to get away. I'll admit that Some of the stuff in STO is pretty cool the mechanics of the PVE missions making you actually think and doing some basic problem solving i found that pretty interesting. As for the rest of it it's Grind grind grind ... that i don't like. WIS has been talked about for years.. I honestly think CCP needs to get the Space part waorked out first and do some really cool things with the game Mechanics before that can be transfered to WIS.

I motion that WIS in it's current form be removed and replaced with "Dust 514 PC version".

sorry, can you eloborate on this a bit

I remember reading somewhere that CCP creates high detailed models and then uses them to create the lesser detailed models that end up in the game. So the higher quality suff might actually be available.

Personally I think that dust514 is going to increase the demand for avatar related gameplay in EVE. Simply because dust players will come to EVE who are used to avatars. And also because EVE players will see how much fun dust players are having with their avatars.

Besides. You can't T-Bad your enemy with a spaceship.

My 9800GT card likes the sound of that.

What is it that Dust514 players will be doing with their avatars other than shooting people in the face? If EVE players want to shoot people in the face rather than the hull, then they should hop on Dust, or another shooter game to facilitate that.

What makes EVE the game that it is... is the play style that it has.

Sure, the Merc "ready room" in orbit that they showed at fanfest was like "whooooa, cool!" because it was new and shiny. I'm on board with that. But after seeing that room after 50 logins, you're just trying to get through it as quick as possible (a la Planetside).

And sure, the video that they showed of the guys docking into a sleeper facility and going inside with enviro / assault suits was pretty freakin cool. But I'd rather see that implemented as part of Dust514, a game that already supports that sort of action, rather than seeing it ad-hocced onto EVE, our spaceship game.

I think of it this way: EVE players hire a team of Dust514 mercs. They fit up a transport ship (maybe a blockade runner), grab the mercs and put them in their cargo. The transport undocks, along with a wing of fighter support. They set off for a wormhole where they found a sleeper installation (maybe it's on a wormhole planet, or just a cosmic signature). Meanwhile, the Dust mercs are playing with their fits in their ready room. They make it to the installation and the mercs undock from the ship and enter the sleeper installation. Now the support wing has to protect the area while the mercs do their jobs inside, because oops, the guys inside set off an alarm and woke up some sleeper security.


What is going to make Dust514 so freaking COOL, will be the interaction and collaboration between the two different styles of play. They shouldn't develop Dust514 and later say, dang, we should put some ships in there for them to fly from system to system! That's for capsuleers.

Okay I think ill have to copy paste this into its own thread. sorry.

Microsoft has network policies in place, they prevent mmo styled patching becuase each deployment would cost 10k usd which isnt much but for a company like ccp those fees hurt. It also prevents talking out of the network to another game network which is why you dont have 'orgin' or 'steam' on the x360 as well. Also because of the policies involved a game on the Xbox live network must use Xbox specific tools for certain things such as voice comms.

If you had a game that was on PC PS3 DS Vita and Wii and you wanted to change a small sampeling of similar rules to the ones in the previous paragraph forget it. The company is going to laugh at you and cosider thier 'share' of the market for that game too diluted to bend over backwards for you.

MS also uses this as a 'bargaining' chip for thier own exclusives for example they waive the fees of patch deployments for CoD which is why all the CoD stuff is on xbox 360 first before it out anywhere else.

PSN had 'similar' network like restrictions. However sony was looking for something to slay halo and Dust 514 is the closest thing they've ran across. When CCP pitched the idea to the sony execs they probably dropped thier jaws in the ambition of CCP's goals with dust 514. Its one of those odd curved balled ideas that might just work you know. So Sony asks CCP what they need from Sony Playstation Network in order for the game to work.

Deployment Fee's Gone.
VIOP Software 3rd party able.
Network connectivity flexibilities
and slews and slews and slews of other little things.

So far sony has gone the miles ccp has asked for. To the point that sony is wanting to model the microtransaction store based on CCP's efforts in dust 514.

Sounds just like M$ arrogant bastards will rue the day they rejected dust 514.

-Vix

Funny you say that, Halo was labeled as such back in the day when nobody ever took console shooters seriously.

In retrospec Medal of Honor had truely horrendous controls. Halo was labeled last gens most underhyped successful game ever.