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How do you make your isk ingame
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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-09-27 16:08:18 UTC
Back in the day when i was young and eager i used to

1. run level 4 missions
2. build stuff up to cap ships
3. play the markets non stop
4. mining when i was tidying the house

now im old

building stuff is a hassle and you dont make much isk. A battleship only gives you 6% profit if you are lucky. and the profit you make can be earned in a few rats.

Markets are annoying as the 0.01 game just becomes tedious.

Mining is so painful that i have no idea why anyone does it and how little isk they make.

so now i just run level 4 missions in highsec.

Nothing beats them for Isk generation and its casual play. with everything else you have to keep an eye on the game


you may say that sanctums are better but you dont have LP and most people dont fly a pimped up highsec mission runner so they are slower.

Plex and faction gear still has to be scanned for and you are not guarenteed that meta 14 invuln.


How do you earn your Isk

I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2011-09-27 16:17:45 UTC
Incursions and C6 wormholes!

It funds me for everything I could possibly need atm. for my PVP and general fun stuff. :)
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#3 - 2011-09-27 16:22:58 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Incursions and C6 wormholes!

It funds me for everything I could possibly need atm. for my PVP and general fun stuff. :)




yeah thats serious isk you are making there.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#4 - 2011-09-27 16:24:39 UTC
After we had spent a couple billion renting our system, spending a couple more hundred million upgrading it for sanctums, learning the jb network so we could build up our supply lines...

CCP decided that small alliances were making to much money, and getting around to easily...

Now our small aliance lost the sanctums, jump bridges (they had to choose which systems had the network and our path got cut)

So now, both my accounts have cash suscribing them and I am forced to go into un-owned parts of space to scan down signitures and risk losing my ship. I had lost one faction BS so far (in the 6 months I have been in null) and it has been a struggle ever since.

We have tried to grab some space before but ONE supercap (with some back up) came and ended that trial....

Signitures and buying plex is how I get isk now, thank god I got a good paying job and no kids. Otherwise I would throw this game like a ticking grenade.

Thank you CCP for making it REALLY F***ING HARD FOR SMALL ALLIANCES/CORPS IN SOV NULL.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-09-27 16:29:55 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
After we had spent a couple billion renting our system, spending a couple more hundred million upgrading it for sanctums, learning the jb network so we could build up our supply lines...

CCP decided that small alliances were making to much money, and getting around to easily...

Now our small aliance lost the sanctums, jump bridges (they had to choose which systems had the network and our path got cut)

So now, both my accounts have cash suscribing them and I am forced to go into un-owned parts of space to scan down signitures and risk losing my ship. I had lost one faction BS so far (in the 6 months I have been in null) and it has been a struggle ever since.

We have tried to grab some space before but ONE supercap (with some back up) came and ended that trial....

Signitures and buying plex is how I get isk now, thank god I got a good paying job and no kids. Otherwise I would throw this game like a ticking grenade.

Thank you CCP for making it REALLY F***ING HARD FOR SMALL ALLIANCES/CORPS IN SOV NULL.



As crappy as this sounds and if you standings are ok you could always have a clone in highsec so that you can grind out some level 4s to give you a breathing space. this would allow you to move back and forth and not be on the breadline so much.

Eve failed really hard there as so many people do not want to be part of huge alliances and just build something with a small group of friends.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#6 - 2011-09-27 16:30:41 UTC
Highsec missions pay fairly awfully and are really really boring.

T2 production +contract trading in highsec

Missions in lowsec, L5s are good if you can passive tank. I tried one with a pair of carriers which was fun, but then local started getting hot so don't think I'll be doing that again. FW earn around 150-200k LP ber hour which is fun, but I wouldn't advise it unless your actually gunna be involved with FW.

Suicide ganks can actually make good ISK, maybe a 200m drop after an hour or so waiting, and the chance of something huge, of course somedays you get nothing, but on average I reckon it rivals L4s for ISK/hr and its a lot more fun.

Lowsec exploration radar + combat sites can earn a fair bit of ISK and won't bore you to death like highsec missions do
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#7 - 2011-09-27 16:35:00 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
building stuff is a hassle and you dont make much isk. A battleship only gives you 6% profit if you are lucky. and the profit you make can be earned in a few rats.

That's why you set up bulk mineral purchase deals and use 30-day manufacture batches on multiple manufacture-focused alts (even on the same account).
6% per unit might look like it could be a small profit, but even a 3% profit on a 50 bil monthly mineral throughput means 1.5 bil ISK/month.

Quote:
Markets are annoying as the 0.01 game just becomes tedious.

So, don't engage in 0.01 ISK games.
Set your price to a level you know the market will eventually reach and let the problem take care of itself.
Don't work harder, work smarter.

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Mining is so painful that i have no idea why anyone does it and how little isk they make.

Somewhat true.

Quote:
so now i just run level 4 missions in highsec.

It's not bad ISK, but too much effort for my taste.

Quote:
Nothing beats them for Isk generation and its casual play. with everything else you have to keep an eye on the game

Trading can be far less effort and a lot more reward.
Again, work smart, don't work hard.

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Samroski
Middle-Earth
#8 - 2011-09-27 16:39:00 UTC
I trade. I place a large number of 90-day market orders and forget about them for a couple of months. The income dwindles after a while, but enough comes in to finance my other interests in Eve.

Any colour you like.
adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-09-27 16:43:10 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:

Nothing beats them for Isk generation and its casual play. with everything else you have to keep an eye on the game


Your an idiot, lvel 4s are the most tedious, annoying, crappy **** way of making money, be ashamed that you said "nothing beats them". 1 sanctum nets 30million, and takes 15 minutes, you obviously have never left hisec, my god, I hate hisec pubbies
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
#10 - 2011-09-27 16:54:07 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
After we had spent a couple billion renting our system, spending a couple more hundred million upgrading it for sanctums, learning the jb network so we could build up our supply lines...

CCP decided that small alliances were making to much money, and getting around to easily...

Now our small aliance lost the sanctums, jump bridges (they had to choose which systems had the network and our path got cut)

So now, both my accounts have cash suscribing them and I am forced to go into un-owned parts of space to scan down signitures and risk losing my ship. I had lost one faction BS so far (in the 6 months I have been in null) and it has been a struggle ever since.

We have tried to grab some space before but ONE supercap (with some back up) came and ended that trial....

Signitures and buying plex is how I get isk now, thank god I got a good paying job and no kids. Otherwise I would throw this game like a ticking grenade.

Thank you CCP for making it REALLY F***ING HARD FOR SMALL ALLIANCES/CORPS IN SOV NULL.


You should have submitted this in a video form for eve is real, CCP would have bene ****** when it would have been voted to the top.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-09-27 16:56:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Karn Dulake
adopt wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:

Nothing beats them for Isk generation and its casual play. with everything else you have to keep an eye on the game


Your an idiot, lvel 4s are the most tedious, annoying, crappy **** way of making money, be ashamed that you said "nothing beats them". 1 sanctum nets 30million, and takes 15 minutes, you obviously have never left hisec, my god, I hate hisec pubbies



Do you act like this in real life mate. Calling people idiots you have never met before because they disagree with you.


Do you strike your keyboard with a giant sword you normally keep strapped to you waist



Akita as painful as it is to say you are completely and totally correct and highsec missions pay badly but i run them in a maxed out nightmare and they take 10 minutes each sometimes 5. The longest ones take 20-25 minutes tops
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-09-27 17:06:44 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Do you strike your keyboard with a giant sword you normally keep strapped to you waist



Yup.
Alpheias
Farmhouse.
Fraternity.
#13 - 2011-09-27 17:11:05 UTC
I take it from my corp mates, like a real lady.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Sturmwolke
#14 - 2011-09-27 17:19:39 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Again, work smart, don't work hard.


Work ... *cough* ... it's still work.

1. exertion or effort directed to produce or accomplish something; labor; toil.
2. EVE Online
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-09-27 17:53:39 UTC
don't spend isk, do some stuff that makes isk... eventually it piles up a bit
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#16 - 2011-09-27 18:05:18 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Back in the day when i was young and eager i used to

1. run level 4 missions
2. build stuff up to cap ships
3. play the markets non stop
4. mining when i was tidying the house

now im old

building stuff is a hassle and you dont make much isk. A battleship only gives you 6% profit if you are lucky. and the profit you make can be earned in a few rats.

Markets are annoying as the 0.01 game just becomes tedious.

Mining is so painful that i have no idea why anyone does it and how little isk they make.

so now i just run level 4 missions in highsec.

Nothing beats them for Isk generation and its casual play. with everything else you have to keep an eye on the game


you may say that sanctums are better but you dont have LP and most people dont fly a pimped up highsec mission runner so they are slower.

Plex and faction gear still has to be scanned for and you are not guarenteed that meta 14 invuln.


How do you earn your Isk



Ice mining during chore time.
WH running when making serious ISK (98-300 mil an hour)
Mission running, Industry (including PI).

Use the minerals from missions to make stuff, make faction stuff and sell it with the LP. I have my ISK generation monitored down to the penny, and I can assure you you can make enough ISK doing industry to pay for several accounts. With one slot.

On that note, do your own calculations. Use your own daily mineral prices. Don't use a website or app that pulls prices from any sort of 'dump'. I have seen people adamant about making 'profit' from industry that was calculated using incorrect prices.

Unfortunately, I don't share industry notes. Shooting myself i the foot would be more fun.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
#17 - 2011-09-27 18:19:35 UTC
I roleplay that I am indeed a space industrialist.

This means that I make T2 goods to sell on the market, but I run my own research POS, mine all my own mins and ice, and use PI to make as much of the other components as I can. I do all this solo having tried for a few years to fit into alliance and corp play, and having that just not work for my playtime and schedule.

This approach keeps me very busy while playing. When that stuff gets old, I run missions either in Amaar space or Caldari space using the racial battleships applicable to the space region I'm flying in...which keeps my skill training hopping. I have two alts (on the same account) that I use for PI exclusively.

That's what I do.
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-09-27 18:30:55 UTC
Send me 150m ISK and I'll tell you.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#19 - 2011-09-27 18:33:03 UTC
Feligast wrote:
Send me 150m ISK and I'll tell you.



send me pictures of your mother posing in her basement/your bedroom and i might just do that
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-09-27 18:37:52 UTC
I buy stuff, use it to make other stuff, and then sell other stuff for more than the cost of making other stuff.

HINT: T1 manufacturing has a low barrier to entry, so margins are poor. The only good T1 manufacturing is to buy, build and sell in bulk. If you don't like the profits from T1 manufacturing, you can manufacture something else. You could manufacture boosters, rigs, T2 rigs, T2 mods, T2 ships, T3 ships, POS fuel, POS mods/towers, capital components, T2 components, etc etc...
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