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nonstop non-consensual pvp is not a feature
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Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
#141 - 2012-04-07 01:29:09 UTC
Marduk Nibiru wrote:
Adunh Slavy wrote:

PVP for tears is lame, go club some baby seals instead.


Who says I don't? Slander will get you nowhere!


That's not slander, slander is the spoken word ... this was liable, Lol

Nothing clever at this time.
Rekon X
Doomheim
#142 - 2012-04-07 01:51:23 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:

No, non-consensual PvP IS the game, even if you don't like to partake in it. If you don't like BF3, don't play it. If you don't like coke, don't drink it. If you don't like Eve, don't play it.



This is kinda funny. CCP spends money trying to get new players in, the new player area has quite a few.

Then the players drive them away with all the GTFO, A$$hat, you suck, crap in the forums and in the game.

I'm sure there are a lot of casual gamers that don't play this game to long.

It's really not looking good.

I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
Thomas Orca
Broski is ded
#143 - 2012-04-07 01:56:12 UTC
Rekon X wrote:
Darth Tickles wrote:

No, non-consensual PvP IS the game, even if you don't like to partake in it. If you don't like BF3, don't play it. If you don't like coke, don't drink it. If you don't like Eve, don't play it.



This is kinda funny. CCP spends money trying to get new players in, the new player area has quite a few.

Then the players drive them away with all the GTFO, A$$hat, you suck, crap in the forums and in the game.

I'm sure there are a lot of casual gamers that don't play this game to long.

It's really not looking good.


Casual Gamer's tend to skip from game to game anyway.

Nothing of value is lost.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#144 - 2012-04-07 02:00:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Tickles
It's a niche game. Niche games aren't for everyone.

I have no problem admitting that CCP does a poor job of transitioning potential customers from their comfort zone in hand-holding games to the responsibilities and potential of a sandbox game, I doubt many people would argue that CCP does a good job in that department. However, the simple fact is that Eve survives and grows year after year because it is absolutely unique.

It is without a doubt unfortunate that more people who might have become dedicated Eve players fall through the cracks because of CCP's failure to provide proper transitioning. However, I have no problem saying that the game isn't for everyone, and if you absolutely can't stand the idea that people can hurt you without your permission, then this game is not for you and it never will be.

Again, this is all very simple stuff, not complicated.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#145 - 2012-04-07 02:02:25 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
we have yet another war dec by a one-man jita war dec corp who will cause the same problem.


Lure him 100KM off the station, then jam scram and web him then go watch a movie.
Rekon X
Doomheim
#146 - 2012-04-07 02:46:41 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
However, the simple fact is that Eve survives and grows year after year because it is absolutely unique.



Survives yes, grows no. I did a trial end of 2005, don't know what the login is anymore.

There were something like 55k users logged in at that time.

It hasn't been that high the last couple of weeks.

I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#147 - 2012-04-07 02:48:44 UTC
Rekon X wrote:
Survives yes, grows no. I did a trial end of 2005, don't know what the login is anymore


It grows year after year, except for one blip where they betrayed the very core foundation of the game that we are discussing.
Rekon X
Doomheim
#148 - 2012-04-07 03:21:01 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Rekon X wrote:
Survives yes, grows no. I did a trial end of 2005, don't know what the login is anymore


It grows year after year, except for one blip where they betrayed the very core foundation of the game that we are discussing.


Betrayed, that's funny. Any time developers change a game there are always some that throw a temper tantrum.

Like you said, it's there game, if you don't like it GTFO.

I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#149 - 2012-04-07 03:28:15 UTC
Rekon X wrote:
Like you said, it's there game, if you don't like it GTFO.


Exactly. A bunch of people didn't like it, so they "gtfo". Then CCP realized they didn't want those people to "gtfo", so they changed their direction towards development that leads to a bigger subscriber base, not a smaller one.

Again, this is all very simple and clear. You're having a hard time running in circles around a simple point. I'm sorry that Eve is different than you want it to be. I wish you could have a spaceship game that wasn't Eve. However, CCP has a clear formula for what works for Eve and what doesn't, and non-consensual PvP in a spaceship sandbox game works.
Rekon X
Doomheim
#150 - 2012-04-07 03:34:35 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Rekon X wrote:
Like you said, it's there game, if you don't like it GTFO.


Exactly. A bunch of people didn't like it, so they "gtfo". Then CCP realized they didn't want those people to "gtfo", so they changed their direction towards development that leads to a bigger subscriber base, not a smaller one.

Again, this is all very simple and clear. You're having a hard time running in circles around a simple point. I'm sorry that Eve is different than you want it to be. I wish you could have a spaceship game that wasn't Eve. However, CCP has a clear formula for what works for Eve and what doesn't, and non-consensual PvP in a spaceship sandbox game works.


I wasn't complaining about the game, just reading through the forums and said something about so many a$$e$ in the forums.

I won't complain about a game. If I don't like a game, I simply don't play it.

I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#151 - 2012-04-07 03:39:42 UTC
Great, then we're all happy.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#152 - 2012-04-07 03:41:58 UTC
scooter Kondur wrote:
by signing a petition like mine you can help make a statment on how you feel about things


Except that you've forgotten that Eve is a cold uncaring place where the victim doesn't have a choice. This is encouraged by the developers as it makes their game the only one like it in the world. A wonderful marketing gimmick.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Tina Mori
Maniacal Miners INC
The Legends In The Game
#153 - 2012-04-07 03:44:53 UTC
Roll Another thread full of trolls (and Goons, but that`s the same thing)
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#154 - 2012-04-07 03:48:40 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
Stuff.

Pottery. I hear you can craft it in Lord of the Rings Online.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#155 - 2012-04-07 03:51:51 UTC
Tina Mori wrote:
Roll Another thread full of trolls (and Goons, but that`s the same thing)


If you can't even expend the mental effort to come up with a creative retort, why even bother posting?

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Tina Mori
Maniacal Miners INC
The Legends In The Game
#156 - 2012-04-07 03:54:38 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Tina Mori wrote:
Roll Another thread full of trolls (and Goons, but that`s the same thing)


If you can't even expend the mental effort to come up with a creative retort, why even bother posting?



You prove my point ....Lol
scooter Kondur
Doomheim
#157 - 2012-04-07 03:56:09 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
Please keep in mind that it is a game. There is no need for such accusations. Spitfire
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#158 - 2012-04-07 04:02:28 UTC
scooter Kondur wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
by signing a petition like mine you can help make a statment on how you feel about things


Except that you've forgotten that Eve is a cold uncaring place where the victim doesn't have a choice. This is encouraged by the developers as it makes their game the only one like it in the world. A wonderful marketing gimmick.


**** victims dont have a choice so u r saying u support ****...u r sick and thats why ppl like u need a time out and jail time


In Uno you don't have a choice. You have to draw four when that card is played on you.

If our children throw a tantrum we explain to them that these are the rules, but it's just a game.

Then we make the child draw four. Sometimes they cry. Some parents maybe take pictures. It's ******* hilarious.

It's for their own good, in the end, to learn to play by the rules.

But people like you just want to change the rules.

Maturity is a beautifully elusive flower in a vast and arid desert.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
scooter Kondur
Doomheim
#159 - 2012-04-07 04:05:39 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
by signing a petition like mine you can help make a statment on how you feel about things


Except that you've forgotten that Eve is a cold uncaring place where the victim doesn't have a choice. This is encouraged by the developers as it makes their game the only one like it in the world. A wonderful marketing gimmick.


**** victims dont have a choice so u r saying u support ****...u r sick and thats why ppl like u need a time out and jail time


In Uno you don't have a choice. You have to draw four when that card is played on you.

If our children throw a tantrum we explain to them that these are the rules, but it's just a game.

Then we make the child draw four. Sometimes they cry. Some parents maybe take pictures. It's ******* hilarious.

It's for their own good, in the end, to learn to play by the rules.

But people like you just want to change the rules.

Maturity is a beautifully elusive flower in a vast and arid desert.


teaching kids to play swkor is better use of time uno is fine if you have add and want to play 52 pick up
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#160 - 2012-04-07 04:20:09 UTC
scooter Kondur wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
by signing a petition like mine you can help make a statment on how you feel about things


Except that you've forgotten that Eve is a cold uncaring place where the victim doesn't have a choice. This is encouraged by the developers as it makes their game the only one like it in the world. A wonderful marketing gimmick.


**** victims dont have a choice so u r saying u support ****...u r sick and thats why ppl like u need a time out and jail time


In Uno you don't have a choice. You have to draw four when that card is played on you.

If our children throw a tantrum we explain to them that these are the rules, but it's just a game.

Then we make the child draw four. Sometimes they cry. Some parents maybe take pictures. It's ******* hilarious.

It's for their own good, in the end, to learn to play by the rules.

But people like you just want to change the rules.

Maturity is a beautifully elusive flower in a vast and arid desert.


teaching kids to play swkor is better use of time uno is fine if you have add and want to play 52 pick up


Regardless, rules are rules. They're very clearly spelled out and each victim agrees to them before logging in.

The victims in this case do have a choice from there, though. They can choose to play the game in a different way so as not to be targets (HTFU), or they can investigate the magnificence of FlyFF Online (GTFO).

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom