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nonstop non-consensual pvp is not a feature
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#81 - 2012-04-06 19:07:23 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
You have no idea what an insta-warp bookmark is, do you?


Roll There are ways to deal with instas. I was going to explain a few, then realized that would be giving away what is apparently rare information. If you can't figure it out, I'll let you continue thinking they're a problem. Just know that I have a habit of showing up in them.

Oh I know how to deal with them, and how to be prepared for someone dealing with my insta-warp, etc. Instaception.

However, the deeper you get into it, the fewer people know how to do it. From the sounds of it, the wardeccer has (somewhat) more competence than the many silly carebears trying to camp him, so I'm betting on the wardeccer being able to not care about their retaliation at all.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#82 - 2012-04-06 19:07:33 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
So you are an UO unlimited griefing person.

Well, see my response to the "benefit" of CCP listening to the likes of you.


Still waiting for that non-fallacious gem...

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Alua Oresson
League of the Shieldy
SLYCE Pirates
#83 - 2012-04-06 19:10:13 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Alua Oresson wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Quote:


One month old pilot. No killboard stats, in NPC corp, spouting off about missions. Yep, must be a mission runner's posting alt. As you are a posting alt, your opinion is invalid.


Your a Null Bear. Your opinion is informed by absolute selfishness justified with wild lies.


Actually, I don't do any PVE content. I mainly fund myself with PLEX because I find the PVE content to be so terrible. Yes, I spend money, sometimes monthly to avoid ANY PVE content. What is your argument now?


So you are an UO unlimited griefing person.

Well, see my response to the "benefit" of CCP listening to the likes of you.


You are still hiding your main behind a posting alt. Again, your opinion is invalid. In fact, I'll make it very easy for you. Currently I am in branch, mostly around CS- and BKG, sometimes RO9. I invite anyone that disagrees with me to come up here and take it out on me.

What say you coward? I say you lack the intestinal fortitude to experience the full glory that is Eve Online. You hide in highsec from your fear of losing things. You don't realize that you lose out on great experiences due to your fear.

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2012-04-06 19:10:30 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
nerfing ship bounties, mission drops, and deliberately creating massive inflation

I don' t think you know what inflation is and why that statement is contradictory.


Does nerfing mission drops and drone goo increase or decrease inflation?

Perhaps you need to think about what CCP is actually doing a little more.
Alua Oresson
League of the Shieldy
SLYCE Pirates
#85 - 2012-04-06 19:12:17 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
nerfing ship bounties, mission drops, and deliberately creating massive inflation

I don' t think you know what inflation is and why that statement is contradictory.


Does nerfing mission drops and drone goo increase or decrease inflation?

Perhaps you need to think about what CCP is actually doing a little more.


I'm curious how this all relates to the OP's problem?

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#86 - 2012-04-06 19:12:17 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
nerfing ship bounties, mission drops, and deliberately creating massive inflation

I don' t think you know what inflation is and why that statement is contradictory.


Does nerfing mission drops and drone goo increase or decrease inflation?

Perhaps you need to think about what CCP is actually doing a little more.


Neither of which is happening in a vacuum.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-04-06 19:13:20 UTC
Alua Oresson wrote:
This is your trial by fire. You are either a predator or a victim in Eve.

Hurr durr, my parents didn't love me, I am a tough guy on the internet. DERP DERP.

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#88 - 2012-04-06 19:14:07 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
nerfing ship bounties, mission drops, and deliberately creating massive inflation

I don' t think you know what inflation is and why that statement is contradictory.


Does nerfing mission drops and drone goo increase or decrease inflation?

Perhaps you need to think about what CCP is actually doing a little more.

Convenient that you excluded ship bounties from your followup question. They are the biggest injector of currency into the economy, as prsented at Fanfest. Nerfing them decreases inflation.

Nerfing meta0 drops and drone goo is buttressing mining as a profession. It makes it worth doing. By your logic, that's adding content.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2012-04-06 19:14:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Jessie-A Tassik
Quote:


You are still hiding your main behind a posting alt. Again, your opinion is invalid. In fact, I'll make it very easy for you. Currently I am in branch, mostly around CS- and BKG, sometimes RO9. I invite anyone that disagrees with me to come up here and take it out on me.

What say you coward? I say you lack the intestinal fortitude to experience the full glory that is Eve Online. You hide in highsec from your fear of losing things. You don't realize that you lose out on great experiences due to your fear.


Have you ever almost died? I'll tell you what went through my head.

"This would be a really stupid way to die."

And indeed it would have been. Idiot crushed by my own car doing something almost completely pointless.

I have no intention of letting you grief me for kicks, so to bad. I try to avoid pointless stupidity as much as possible.
Jastra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2012-04-06 19:14:48 UTC
Kale Kold wrote:
Ban Bindy wrote:
My alt corp has just had three weeks of war during which we lost more new members to the fact that they had nothing to do for a week but sit in dock.

Grow a pair, instead of cowering in the corner? Roll



Change your recruitment policy
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#91 - 2012-04-06 19:14:54 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
And yet CCP listens to you.


Given the the past six months of changes, you REALLY think CCP isn't favoring highsec right now?

Bounties are being dropped because bounties are the biggest isk fountain in the game. Hopefully they'll renorm incursions after that, but we'll have to wait and see. They've already ruined the wardec system and Inferno's changes aren't looking all that great right now. They have been and will continue to make it HARDER for us to gank you, steal from you, and scam you. Most of the changes CCP makes lately have to do with giving you a nice plastic helmet to keep you from bumping your head if you fall down.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#92 - 2012-04-06 19:15:05 UTC
Alua Oresson wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
nerfing ship bounties, mission drops, and deliberately creating massive inflation

I don' t think you know what inflation is and why that statement is contradictory.


Does nerfing mission drops and drone goo increase or decrease inflation?

Perhaps you need to think about what CCP is actually doing a little more.


I'm curious how this all relates to the OP's problem?

This is now just an amusing flame thread. Best one in a while, actually.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#93 - 2012-04-06 19:15:45 UTC
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
Alua Oresson wrote:
This is your trial by fire. You are either a predator or a victim in Eve.

Hurr durr, my parents didn't love me, I am a tough guy on the internet. DERP DERP.

Sadly, I was dropped on my head as an infant, now I'm a wise-guy on the internet. Yuck yuck yuck.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#94 - 2012-04-06 19:23:00 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
And yet CCP listens to you.


Given the the past six months of changes, you REALLY think CCP isn't favoring highsec right now?

Bounties are being dropped because bounties are the biggest isk fountain in the game. Hopefully they'll renorm incursions after that, but we'll have to wait and see. They've already ruined the wardec system and Inferno's changes aren't looking all that great right now. They have been and will continue to make it HARDER for us to gank you, steal from you, and scam you. Most of the changes CCP makes lately have to do with giving you a nice plastic helmet to keep you from bumping your head if you fall down.


Name those changes.

I'll name some negative changes:
1.The "new wardec system" makes every Null Sec mega-alliance immune to War-Decs. So yeah, that's really mean to Null-Sec.

2.Put high taxes on PI in High Sec while Null Sec has effectively zero and planets that are 4 times as better as well. Low Sec got shafted in terms of PI as well.

3.Nerf of Drone Goo makes Null/Wormhole major suppliers of minerals.

4.Incursion Nerf. Only necessary change, but it still is a nerf to High Sec.


If you are in Low Sec, sure, you might be getting some bad stuff. You aren't CCP's little darlings, so you could be getting the shaft to. Jump Freighters, for example, were a big present to the Nulls and a big kick in the but to you.

I'd really like a list of EXPLICIT positive changes made for High Sec.

Not just, ya know, the War Dec changes really benefit High. Ya know? Like for sure dude.

That doesn't count.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#95 - 2012-04-06 19:27:28 UTC
Wow you just have no idea what you're talking about huh?
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
Doomheim
#96 - 2012-04-06 19:27:53 UTC
OP a number of things for you


1. There is only non consenual pvp in this game. It other type does not exist.

2. The people insulting you are long term players and dont remember what it was like when they had no pvp skills or understanding of the mechanics

3. People who call for tears on the forums are the normally the saddest people you will ever see and ive talked to lots of them in game on vent/mumbler etc

4. if you want no more wardecs leave caldari space. Its were most people are and griefers scan roid fields looking for easy marks all the time

Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2012-04-06 19:28:10 UTC
This thread sucks. The OP and everybody in it, including myself, should feel very ashamed of themselves.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#98 - 2012-04-06 19:28:52 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Name those changes.

I'll name some negative changes:
1.The "new wardec system" makes every Null Sec mega-alliance immune to War-Decs. So yeah, that's really mean to Null-Sec.

2.Put high taxes on PI in High Sec while Null Sec has effectively zero and planets that are 4 times as better as well. Low Sec got shafted in terms of PI as well.

3.Nerf of Drone Goo makes Null/Wormhole major suppliers of minerals.

4.Incursion Nerf. Only necessary change, but it still is a nerf to High Sec.


If you are in Low Sec, sure, you might be getting some bad stuff. You aren't CCP's little darlings, so you could be getting the shaft to. Jump Freighters, for example, were a big present to the Nulls and a big kick in the but to you.

I'd really like a list of EXPLICIT positive changes made for High Sec.

Not just, ya know, the War Dec changes really benefit High. Ya know? Like for sure dude.

That doesn't count.


1. What is stopping you people from forming massive alliances and coalitions in the area of Eve with the highest population density?

2. Null-sec taxes on PI are sometimes higher than high-sec, depending on your alliance's power and prestige. Destructible POCOs sure do favor nullsec though Roll

3. Miners should be the primary suppliers of minerals. That a drone crusade could deflate the mineral market to such extremes before this was done is...notable.

4. A nerf to high-sec where it's obviously needed for the benefit of non-participants who were literally being griefed by the inflation it was generating. Right?

What makes you think that high-sec needs a bunch of changes designed to be in its favor again?

Oh right, fallacious thoughts, etc.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#99 - 2012-04-06 19:36:42 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Wow you just have no idea what you're talking about huh?


Explain then. I have yet to here a real answer to anything I have said.

The hysterical whining in the refining as ISK sink thread has already established the level of this debate, so if you want me to rise above "module refining need give no minerals, drones need give no minerals, all high end minerals only in Null/Worm" then raise it above that. Cause I have yet to see decent discussions.

Or maybe "Let's take the 100,000,000 ISK peoples wallet to zero cause they won't leave" was the height of wisdom?

WoW doesn't take the Epics away, it simply adds bigger Epics on top. There is a difference between that and just taking someones pile of cash which they have spent literally years accumulating and just making it worthless.

But, yeah know, maybe it will work. Maybe people will response calmly to years of playtime going up in smoke.

OR MAYBE THEY WON'T.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#100 - 2012-04-06 19:39:28 UTC
Then read the post directly above your last one.

You know, where I answer every single thing you listed.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom