EVE General Discussion

Sheep and horses are both herbivores.

But you shear sheep and ride horses.

So how was this premeditated, was the name included with the presentation? No
So he remembers a name, I still remember most of the names of people who have ganked me.

There are a few problems with your argument here. The Wis was never threatened by Mittens, nor did they even has an interaction prior to Mittens apologizing and throwing billions of isk at him because of how bad Mittens felt about what he did.

Mittens does not know The Wis's real identity. However, people do know Mittens's real identity, as well as his address. According to Mittens, people have been sending him death threats, and Mittens is correct in his statement that the label "Cyberbully" may have well ruined his life, if he had not retired early.

Pets of Bee pets have an opinion?

And inciting your rabid, knuckle-dragging followers to hound a person into suicide, is still considered wrong by most rational adults and legal systems.

You need to get over it and move on, be thankful that they didn't ban him permanently.

See bold. I have to disagree with this. You are correct that CCP decides on what's legal and what isn't. However, there are certain behaviors that *I* (and maybe many others?) consider to be malicious and ill in nature, especially meta-game ,or, where real life is concerned. Obviously if you don't believe in ethics then there really is no point in discussing this because it's kind of difficult to tell someone where the "line" is drawn when they don't believe in the "line" to begin with.

I believe some people use the game as a tool to grief and bully. And I don't need CCP to tell me when that line is crossed. When I play the game I exercise good reasoning and common sense to keep myself away from that line. But I also understand that CCP will draw the line where they think that line should lie and that is A-OK with me. However, I use my own discretion and you know what? For the most part our lines seem to be drawn in the same place. Figure that!

If you use common sense you will hardly go wrong. Unfortunately there are those that seem to have malfunctioning common sense and reason and need CCP to tell them exactly where not to tread. But even then, just like a 2-year-old, they will test mommy to feel out the consequences regardless of whether what they're doing is right or wrong because as I said before, the line is non-existent to them.

In other words, some feel that grief play is wrong because CCP has deemed it wrong, not because they themselves feel there is something inherently wrong with grief play. And it doesn't take much thought to realize that once the game is used as a tool for grief rather than actual entertainment it has become a form of meta game or, not completely part of the game.

Now the kicker is that goons and test are known for their meta-game I think precisely for the reasons I describe above. And I don't think alcohol is the excuse. Alexander's been playing with fire for a very long time. He got burned. And now he's screaming foul on meta-gaming. Hypocrisy at its best. This podcast reflects this very well, in my opinion. He must have spent 5% of his time admitting to a "drunken mistake" and the other 95% positioning himself as the victim in all this, God forbid he's labeled as a bully in real life. That could ruin his good name.

Oh, the hypocrisy here is so thick that you couldn't even drill through it.

Reading comprehension pretty much owns you.

You obsessed, bro? You seem obsessed.

Interesting bit from the editor at the end of the piece showing how the little bees have, by all definitions, tried to cyber-bully the gaming media into dropping the cyber-bully title given to the mitardi.

Irony much?

Mr Epeen

Smuttens got out EVEd - plain and simple.

You goons obsessing over it are starting to look beyond desperate.

You cant ever hope to beat someone at a game in which, they are vastly superior than you. Real Truth.