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pausing my two account subscriptions as well after these few years.

so lame

Hasn't learned to credit his sources yet, though. Maybe he'll learn that next. ;)

I would like to suggest that Mitardi gets a perma ban.

Copy paste from my offtopic reply in an unrealated forumn catagory with minor modifications so it makes sence without the need to include the posts I replied to:

Its not like he gave anyone his name, surname, address, social security & telephone numbers.
He gave them one of his 22 character's names. At a game alliance panel discussing events & a character ...in a game,
and when he spoke, he was introduced as "The Mitanni" a character... from a game, at a huge pissup event for fanboys of a game.

Is that enough game for you?

to be quite frank, the only person that brought RL into it was the guy who sent an evemail to another character in a game who is a member of unquestionably the most renouned griefer alliance in a game, describing his sad life story to the sounds of a [tearful man playing a really sad song on a tiny violin.. out of game].
(Incidentally this is why I have zero sympathy for him, & truly believe he deserves to be singled out & mocked in public. Its the equivelent of running up to a foaming at the mouth rottweiler with your pants down and farting in its face expecting it not to tear you a new anus. Of course here is a clear example of the owner of the dog being fined and the animal is put down.)

If this had nothing to do with "the game" then the TOS/EULA would not apply at all.


Many have presented a good argument about the moral implications of inciting a real person to commit suicied, aswell as the Mittani's seat on the CSM having a limited affect on CCP's image when making the comment as he did, which could be so widely misinterpreted.

I have no fond feelings for Mittani or for goonswarm, but objectively with the evidence presented I so far am struggling to find agreement with you that he infact broke any real world moral ethics, perhaps its a failing on my part.
Had he himself given out any out of game info indentifying the 'victim', this would be an open and shut case in my opinion, and I'd even expect legal implications. But as it is, that was never the case, and as such. I have no moral issue. Now where it does get hazzy, is the interpretation of the EULA and how far did mittani go to breach its player harrassment clause. Even here its left up to interpretation because does the one punishable for the infraction have to be the people who commit the harrasment, or just the one who suggests it? And in mitanni's wording... did he infact even suggest it?

Lets take a look once again at his quote:
The Mittani: Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is The Wiz. Its “T-H-E SPACE W-I-S”. He has his own corp. Find him.

It apears the only possible damning part that could be interpreted as inciting others to harass this individule may be the words "Find him". But he fails to go into detail about what creative measure one might take in order to achieve "guy killing himself."
Nore did he elaborate if by guy killing himself he meant: The guy [being character] self destructing his pod, (Im sure that could be acomplished by scramming & webbing his capsule long enough that his only course of escape would be to commit ingame suicide.) or the guy [player] himself commiting real suicide. Since no rl names or specifics on how to accumplish the latter where given I shall have to accept the former interpretation.

Yeah I watched it too... but according to almost every game media website I've been to, they'd have you believe in 1000words or more that Mittani started a campaign of cyber bulling, breaking several laws, Told players track down the individule, and spam him / edge him on to commit suicide. many suggest the players personal details where given out. And others who actually 'accurately' quote what mittani said, purposely censor the victims char name from the quote giving the impression it was the persons real life name.


What was interesting though was that a CCP employee sparked the comment, by providing further details (devs were likely tracking him as a suspected bot user) in stateing that "The guy with the 22 accounts ended up in the drone regions but was kicked out of there too".

I hear you there. To bad I was believeing it. I was hoping it was the last nail for goons. But seeing it on youtube i must say WTF CCP.

I love eve, and the dog eat dog sand box. Ive no problem with what happens in game. I even didnt see much bad in the AP video. Im lucky (or unlucky) enough to have a current RL CA DA at my dispolal so out of curiosity I wanted to know what he thought about the last minutes of the AP video. this person knows nothing about eve, or this thread

this is an exact quote from the return phone call "if this man as so much as showed up at his local ER with so much as an anxiety attack, Id have the guy in the disney hat hooked up by his locals.


what happens in EVE stays in EVE. however this was NOT in game, so I guess what I learned here is gank and burn all you want, just make sure you keep it in game and w/o RL personal depth

we all have to be very careful about media they dont care about facts.


TBH myself i cant really decide if what happen warrents all this attention in the end thou Id hate to his this guy loose his CSM since all in all this is a SNAFU, still thou witches have been burned at the stake becasue of a false nose a peice of wood and a duck

EULA / TOS covering what i say over ts too ? i mean this is bs

Gets banded for a infection that didn't even take place in-game.

And Just who made the videos that got uploaded to the net ?
They should get banded as well then.

So many of mittens followers are arguing with him.

He said he did a bad thing.

He said he would resign.

He said he was ashamed of what he had done.

Now his followers are arguing with him about it.

Either arguing with him or know him so well that they think he lied about his entire apology, and if that is so he is even a bigger scumbag than he described himself to be in his apology.

OK - the numbers

59000 votes about 16.4 % of the total player/voter base.

10085 votes for mittani which comes out to be less than 5% of the player /voter base.

With the total number of players/voters, 5% is about the margin of error. The margin of error is what can be expected to be the amount of sampling error. It means the results could be accepted if the results were 5% in either direction. That means it is not of statistical consequence.

Because the election produced such a small turnout, CCP should recognize the players, at least 83.6% of the players, have no confidence in the CSM.

Would any corporation in the top 10,000 corporations in the world have their customers elect a customer advisory panel? Have a customer advisory panel - yes, absolutely - but not produced by a phoney election where a large voting bloc could have each of its members buy a vote or five for some of the of the plentiful plexes which can be obtained with a few hours of the kind of play people signed up for in the first place. Forget about buying votes for 15 bux and think about the inflation of plexes leading up to fanfest where they could be used to pay for excursions, probably a poker tournament, and oh yeah, extra votes for a CSM

Rather a shallow argument to blame all the inflation on incursionists who might be buying one a month as thousands of other are doing, while fanfesters might be buying up to 30+ if they have a guest with them and intend to see all the excursions. And whatever else could be paid for with Plex by a fanfester. Or maybe even some votes.

CCP Next time you have an election, could you refrain from running a concurrent special on low priced additional accounts?

If you guys are mad because you feel your votes were disenfranchised - take it up with the guy who pizzed your votes down the crapper. Don't blame the victim. Don't blame CCP for getting their teat caught in the wringer by your guy and being forced to act. Put the blame square on the one who brought the whole thing on himself and for each of you for having trusted him. Now go burn Jita down - should be a nice fire, but where will all your market bots go?