EVE General Discussion

Running for CSM involves giving up one's internet anonymity. I have done it (hence you know I'm known as Andrew Cruse irl) and Alexander Gianturco has done it. So don't attempt to legal-shizzle me with your voodoo nonsense please.

As I noted elsewhere the person who claimed to reveal Alexander's address on the eve-radio channel tonight was very bad. They got petitioned (and I understand) dealt with. Whether it was the real address or just troll is irrelevant at this point. Metagaming should leave people's rl out of in-game conflicts.

Which is precisely the point I was making with the goons continuing the use of a troll url that was created specifically to attempt to get me in trouble with my rl employers in 2008. If you want to join me in opposing the abuse of eve players via ooc harrassment then by all means join me in condemning such things without partizan boundaries. Otherwise your opinions become quite suspect.

Myself I don't think that. Is why it was only a 30 day ban. Partially because even as jest, if there was a suicide risk then the jest could have caused harm. Of course also the statements of EULA. If intention was clearly sincere for some really strange reason, I think we all agree it would have been permanent and possibly even more ramifications.

You and I both know there would be the same level of outcry had he even 'just' said kill yourself. It's simply an alien concept to anyone outside some areas of internet culture.

Anyways we can keep debating this but obviously you think The Mittani implied he wanted people to encourage this guy to kill himself and I don't. vOv

lol all you people who are continuing this tirade against The Mittani are becoming that which you seem to despise so much. Group think, bandwagoning, and blind acceptance are all dangerous things.

Originally I was upset

But his twitter said he would step down, apologies, give isk to guy. I thought thats awesome.

But then step down, became resign from CSM6 but still be on CSM7 I was pretty WTF about that. It was at that point that the apology became hollow to me. As it felt like he was just doing it to keep his power. And that you really didnt understand the gravity of the situation. This is when it all spun out of control.

Then the goons started their barrage of crap on the forums with illogical garbage and pretty much condoned what mittens had done. You should have ordered them not to say a freaking thing about it. But they spammed the threads up and elevated it even more.

It only reinforced what I understood of the situation, that unless something highly visible was done about the incident it wouldnt matter. So i believed a ban of some length had to be done next.

And yes it was cyber bullying mittens. Of the worst sort. And it was incitement to suicide. You yourself say there are crazy people in even who send me death threats and more. Yet you turn around at fanfest and light the fuse to have people harass a player to his death? Jest or not with your understanding as you say of the crazies on the internet means you cant weasel out of the responsibility of your actions or the ramifications those actions might have had on a real person.

Then the state of the goonion....Lots of crying of it being CCPs fault. "No im really sincere about my apology, no really I am, but its really these other guys fault? they tossed me under a bus, so lets take it out on everyone else get on the forums and make it worse Goons." To paraphrase, Are you flipping kidding?

Then you go on eve radio, after understanding the damage of having your IRL name used and start throwing out another persons name left and right. Are you mental? What ever your reasons and self justification you just come off as even more childish in this. More bullying tactics at play.

Also the blame shifting, finger wagging, and the I did bad but its everyone's elses fault too?

Freaking stop with the childish baloney already. You keep making it worse. The its all the big bad media line is a bunch of bullcrap buttherpdedeurp.

Also it was CYBERBULLYING. The attempts to redefine it by saying ITS KIDS DOING IT PRIMARILY is sickening. My cousin wasn't a child when he killed himself from harassment. Done by people that thought they were just joking. You are the ringmaster of a gang of cyberbullies. Now your are going to bully everyone to fix your PR? WTF?

You keep making it worse every step of the way.

You are a public figure and as such open to public discussion of your actions and behavior. You put yourself out there like that.

Also eve radio, nice bull-crap soft balling you did there. Fluff mittens some more for us.

It's funny, because I/we do.

Can CCP moderate the dudes real name being used on the forums, or is that fair game now?

I can understand people going all out with the meta gaming, but the intentional spamming of keywords tied to a real name is extremely hypocritical in the context of condemning harassment.

Hey Jade - reported for using a players real name. Since he's not a member of CSM 6 or 7 the standard rules apply. See yas.

Am I the only one who thinks Mittens' slandering of Massively was a little out of line?

I mean, okay, yes, sensationalist bullshit media blah blah blah.

But by the same token, if he hadn't gotten drunk and been so ******* stupid, the media wouldn't have had anything to pick up on in the first place. He owns at least half of the blame for the negative media that has resulted. Listening to him talk about the potentially damaging nature of the press makes me more pissed off at him for the potential harm against CCP than his potential harm against this Wiz guy.

Some people have a right to be outraged at the Media's stupidity. I don't believe mittens is one of those people.

couldnt stand his voice, what a douche.
He kept referring to his mindless goons as MY PEOPLE.
douche +10 more douche.