Live Events Discussion

The effort thing... sort of a core issue. The number of potential willing participants to a live event is always great, except when effort from their behalf enters the picture. Most have, after all, enough work to be done in real life already

Headfirst's Sansha events before Incursion were brilliant as they easily included people due to, frankly said, the simple minded goal they laid out; here are the Sansha, destroy them. Some people added spice to the mix by trying to side with the Sansha and the event(s) went pretty well

Arek'Jaalan on the other hand has difficulties explaining the people that want to participate what they should really do. There is nothing to shoot and no immediate rewards to be had. As one who has left real life academia behind I found it as a great opportunity to practice "fictional science", but for somebody with no such experience it seems getting into the topic is hard

Site One was a great event though, again because of the simple and straight forward goal and accessibility. The two w-space incidents were pretty bad as they ended up being effort made for a single person/group only and highly exclusive. To make matters worse, not much was really gained from the project point of view, as in the first instance the involved player was more concerned about killboard whoring and did not find it weird at all to find multiple completely stationary cov-ops frigates. In the second case the player was a w-space alt intended to scan out wormholes in case of access being lost and therefore incapable of engaging a single Sleeper drone and explore a rather tempting spatial rift

The danger CCP Goliath is taking on here, is that of effort; if not careful he might end up having to do a lot of effort to make events with simple goals to draw in a big crowd or he can continue to keep the project more mental demanding with less effort on his behalf, which on one hand encourages a few players to be very productive but has difficulties appealing to the masses

I wonder if doing Live Events count as company work.

There's nothing stopping CCP from doing both - Some initial setup will allow them to both manage longer-term, short-time stuff, and still give them the opportunity to 'relax' by staging a real Live Event from time to time.

From a time perspective, I'd suggest that CCP give Mercury a little leeway to help with the general clarifications etc, that could help bring a better foundation to the whole thing.

I know it's a while ago [pre-crucible], but I think I ran into some pdf file report written by the A'J Project members specifically studying the celestial sphere of New Eden and try to determine the span of the current universe, or something like that. And then the nebula are redone in the crucible expansion, and I suppose the celestial sphere has changed a lot in the process. Does that mean A'J Project's effort wasted?

P.S. I'm heading to the live event site right now. Hopefully it's still there to be seen.

Hope to see more live events soon. Always have a lot of fun with those.

I'm interested on helping, but knowing how is proving harder than expected... I think I'll just go with the evemail option.

It's not going to be a possibility. Pretty sure I don't need to explain why giving people the tools to create deadspace sites, associate AI with ships, change the colour of their text or remove skills from the ship-flying equation isn't particularly safe

Are you familiar with AURORA? They used to run live events and were volunteer-based. Unfortunately the player base grew too large to leave this duty in the hands of volunteers, and ultimately we are better placed to run events that give a consistent experience to a wider audience.

That all being said, there is nothing that is stopping players from running interesting, engaging events in-game. Marlona Sky for instance has run 2 "Flight of a Thousand Rifters" events now and I believe they were very popular. There are many other examples of this occurring in game and it's amazing to see how creative people can be within the boundaries of the game.

I remember AURORA and to my knowledge there were some other serious issues (misuse of power) that were the main reason for its closure and not that the player base grew too big. Also explains why we should not have it back.

And all our hard work are compiled in EVELOPEDIA. The new EVELOPEDIA is streamlined and easy to navigate. Please type in "Arek'Jaalan" to get caught up on all the work!

Just adding a supportive +1 to more on this project & the WH story in general, some good ideas in this thread. Please don't let this die off CCP, its the most interesting bit of the lore!

That the problem they are going NOWHERE!!!
WHERE IS THIS BLACK HOLE THAT SWALLOWS PAST IDEAS AND LEADS THEM TO NOWHERE? Kill the BH with fire!!!