EVE General Discussion

Didn't really want a debate to be honest happy to hear your view.

Yes I'll accept that once you accept EULA/TOS your basically at the mercy of the service provider. Go and talk to a Steam account holder who was VAC banned because they account shared with a dodgy mate.

However, are you suggesting a bulk purge of griefers or do you expect tolerance levels to drop? Interesting to apply this to what has always been effectively a lawless game - in every way.

Why do I need to go and start a company to understand your point? Done that. I'm a majority shareholder in my own startup providing a range of web applications to the public that's been running successfully for years and I now run a architecture consultancy.

I think you are trying to be a bit mystical for no good reason.

Only their souls.

I am not suggesting anything except the obvious, and the obvious is flexible and dependent on to many factors that I do not personally control, no one really does, not CCP, not SONY. It's just part of a natural flow.

Mysticism, no. But if you are really involved directly with a business, as in running it directly, you would know that Business in a sense, is mystical. Sometimes you might even wake up and wonder how the heck you own/run/operate a company in any regards. No offense but holding shares isn't running a business from the ground up. I hold shares, partnership contracts, government contracts, doesn't mean I run a darn thing directly from their ends, I have no idea how they run their companies, nor do I speculate, I just expect them to deliver, and ultimately get my $.

I personally know I wake up wondering that very thing. Some days you absolutely hate running your own company, some days you love it, and once you add the general public to that mix, all hell within your own little "bubble" of mentality breaks lose. I despise the public, because at the end of the day, I am the public just like everyone else, and I know what I want, I know that I don't understand how everyone runs their companies, I don't understand nor care for their rules, I just want MY product. It's a cycle.

Hate CCP/SONY over enforcing, taking actions on some players? No, praise them, praise them for stepping up to the plate whether you agree or disagree.

If I was CCP however, I'd enforce my rules against anything that is a danger to my new partnerships, and profit scaling at this point, Now is the very time to do just that. This is the best excuse of any for a crackdown, and rule enforcement. Singling out certain groups isn't illegal, it's not un-ethical, it's business. Sounds funny, but that's life... I used to disagree, infact scratch that I do disagree, but it's business, it's the way of life. You can't say you accept one right and another wrong and call yourself right, you have to learn to compromise, and that's exactly what CCP should do right now, compromise.

Why? Because in this day and age, it's very rare to see. Judge their integrity all you want, in the end, it's done.

I respect your devotion to yourself, and agree with your points.
On that note, we both know this is still fresh, and CCP has plenty of time to present themselves, right now they are in damage control mode. Once they get their on-board fires under control, I wouldn't expect them not to make some sort of statement in reflection to the situations @ fanfest, afterall their investigations are still open, and you and I both know what that's used for. Time.

Time being the business aspect of human patience. Gives CCP time to formulate plans, backup plans, statements, scenarios, projections, so on.

However during this time I wouldn't, not expect some interesting things to happen.


If this "was" my company(CCP) I'd take my time, this is a unique business opportunity, it's rare you get situations in which you can adjust your entire model to. It's almost like the ("Goons") helped CCP, when all they want to do is ruin CCP. Like that joke I see on the internet "It's a trap!" and they walked right into it... All CCP did was provide the live feeds, and the EVE-O forums, the community and involved parties did the rest. CCP just has to sit back now and pick & choose where to position.

The war is over, the battles rage on, but the victor is cleansing the field.

I voted for a CSM that got tossed out last time and I didn't get my vote back, why should you.