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New Dev Blog: Alliance Panel at Fanfest 2012: The Conclusion

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Hecatonis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#781 - 2012-03-29 05:12:36 UTC
Andski wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:
even i sat through his address to the goons,

he left the CSM by his own choice, you people need to lay off the koolaid


He hasn't confirmed that, FYI



um, yes he did, listen again my dear goon.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#782 - 2012-03-29 05:17:14 UTC
u mad bro?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#783 - 2012-03-29 05:17:25 UTC
Hecatonis wrote:
Andski wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:
even i sat through his address to the goons,

he left the CSM by his own choice, you people need to lay off the koolaid


He hasn't confirmed that, FYI



um, yes he did, listen again my dear goon.


he didn't resign from the CSM.

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IllusiveWolf63
Rayn Enterprises
#784 - 2012-03-29 05:18:14 UTC
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
This entire situation is regrettable and there was no perfect outcome. I am concerned about the disenfranchisement of voters but trust CSM6 and CCP to sort things as best as possible under the circumstances.


You can trust CCP to work it out the best possible way for them. The CSM is supposed to represent the player base.

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Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#785 - 2012-03-29 05:22:01 UTC
Andski wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:
even i sat through his address to the goons,

he left the CSM by his own choice, you people need to lay off the koolaid


He hasn't confirmed that, FYI


Who care what he 'confirms'. CCP owns this game not mitty. They said he is out - he is out... regardless of his hubris. He did it himself. Oh and goons seem to cry and moan more than the carebears they mock btw. That's not lost on anyone. I won't (yet) use the 'delicious' term you love so much.

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Damion Rayne
Panoptic
#786 - 2012-03-29 05:25:09 UTC
Zhade Lezte wrote:
To make it clear to those who don't have a hateon for mitanni and a fondness for distorting the truth towards your own agenda while maintaining a facade of self-righteousness, CCP pretty much unequivocally removed Mitanni from the CSM as opposed to Mitanni resigning.

Our latest CEO update on the forums mentions how he has chosen to resign from the charimanship but continue to work within the CSM as a regular member. Then this devblog was posted.

Don't fool yourself into thinking that he willingly resigned from the CSM, if that was the case it would be written that he resigned from the chairmanship and the CSM, instead of having resigned from the chairmanship and "forfeited" his position on the CSM.

Naturally of course, CCP's PR department has made sure to make it not clear what the truth of the matter really is: the disenfranchisement of 10,058 voters.

I'm disappointed at this but not particularly surprised they would take such an action with the media shitstorm and likely pressure from Sony due to their presence at fanfest due to Dust, they are a company after all and they'll do unjust things if it seems important enough for their business interests. I'm glad to hear that the other representatives are likely going to remain in contact with The Mitanni in spite of CCP's cowardice and I hope they will bring forth the interests of The Mitanni's constituents in their interactions with CCP.

Hopefully CCP's apparent fear of Sony and the gaming media will not result in a reduction to the harsh universe that made me stay around in Eve and brought so many of us here. We shall see soon enough!


Do "Un Just" things? Un Just? Your'e glorious leader told people to force a man to kill himself, and you call CCPs' actions un just? News flash..

THE VERY EXISTENCE OF GOONSWARM IS UNJUST

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Etil DeLaFuente
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#787 - 2012-03-29 05:33:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Etil DeLaFuente
10,058 tears, he's indeed the best vilain in eve Big smile
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#788 - 2012-03-29 05:41:45 UTC
In the words of "your CEO~" and "chairman for life~" or whatever his current title is:

"Deal with it~".

I don't see how the voters got disenfranchised by CCP's actions anyway. The Mittani got himself into this mess, and you're angry at CCP. Why? Because being angry at your elected buddy would destroy too much of your self esteem?

Personally, I'm, frisky as a squid on Tuesdays.
Empathic Psychopath
Cult of the Crayon
#789 - 2012-03-29 05:52:45 UTC
RDevz wrote:
You've disenfranchised 10,058 voters. Good job.

Edit:

CCP Navigator's edited post wrote:
The panelist was a member of the CSM who has subsequently resigned from CSM6 and, as a result, will resign his seat on CSM7.


The Mittani wrote:
I now exercise my right as the winner of the election with 10,058 votes to decline the office of Chairman.


Unless there's something that's not been said in public, I think you might be jumping to conclusions there. There's a difference between being a CSM member and being the CSM chairman.



Ummmm...I didn't hear anyone complain about being disenfranchised when the last CSM member got kicked, how does it make the people who voted for mittens any different? Just because most of them were goons? If that's the case then maybe all goons should quit eve in protest...I dare ya! Big smile
Kile Kitmoore
#790 - 2012-03-29 05:53:34 UTC
What does the victim say about this because if he was that upset (which I don't believe he is) why not allow him to change his game identity? If he is OK with everything and actually enjoying the media spotlight why not have him and Mitt's sing "We are the world", together on YouTube?

Makes me wonder what the turn out will be like in the next election when the Chairman can so easily be tossed out. Oh, I do understand that he stepped down, but what amount of pressure was placed on him to do so?

Quick note on the bad press, imagine if you will some dude who's grinding his 1000th WOW quest on the verge of shooting himself in the head but reads this "bad" press and thinks to himself, "Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick, I can do that crazy **** in a game!". Yes, he quits WOW, comes here and we have just saved a life.

This idea that CSM members need to be model citizens in a game which prides itself on being a dark cold universe full of cutthroats is stupid.

CCP HTFU and enjoy the press Mittens has yet again brought to your door.
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#791 - 2012-03-29 06:04:21 UTC
Good decision. Thank you, CCP.
Empathic Psychopath
Cult of the Crayon
#792 - 2012-03-29 06:04:49 UTC
Koby Botick wrote:
1/6 th of all votes disregarded. Is CCP back a russian sounding abbreviation again? I hear they like to manipulate votes in plain sight there too.



Wasn't it goons that were praising CCP not that long ago when a nerf to tians was announced? My how the mighty have fallen :)
Aineko Macx
#793 - 2012-03-29 06:08:30 UTC
Etil DeLaFuente wrote:
10,058 tears, he's indeed the best vilain in eve Big smile

I approve Twisted

Quick goonies, go "burn jita to the ground".

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Shang Fei
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#794 - 2012-03-29 06:13:13 UTC
Even though I do not like The Mittani, as in the evil leader of the goons.
I do believe that Mittens, the ex-CSM chairman, has done alot for our game and I believe that he being removed, resigning, whatever, is a mistake that might take a hard toll upon EVE Online. I certainly hope not, but I think he was a good member of the CSM and I do not realy disagree with anything that he has accomplished as Chair of the CSM 6.
Diamonica Norya
Pro Synergy
#795 - 2012-03-29 06:17:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Diamonica Norya
we're still going? I ran out of pop corns and jars to contain the tears collected

I thought the Fanfest is a CCP hosted event about some CCP developed game, some bad guy did something at the event about the game has everything to do with it...

Btw, Mitty sounds mad at the end of his new speech, hurting much?

I prefer the Mitty on Eve Radio interview, full of confidence and sounded like a reasonable man would, but I guess it was a show.

Or was it the new speech that was more of a real Mitty, then I have no regrets about my miscasted votes.
Valryon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#796 - 2012-03-29 06:26:08 UTC
How do you ban someone for something they did outside your game? That's messed up.
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#797 - 2012-03-29 06:33:09 UTC
I bet that most of Eve forgets about the Mittani in the next 30 days.

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Ordais
DARK ORCHESTRA
#798 - 2012-03-29 06:35:48 UTC
Goon tears....so many goon tears....*nomnomnom*

As for the 10.000 voters....its not CCPs fault that you candidate shot himself in the foot and can't represent you anymore. Take it up with him.

Well, i do agree with the desicion, but it will hurt the game in many ways wich makes me even MORE angry at Mittens...you just couldn't pull yourself together. All this talk about "beeing a politician" and "understanding how this works"....and then you do something STUPID like this. Well done....not.
Aineko Macx
#799 - 2012-03-29 06:35:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Aineko Macx
While mittens unintendly self-facializing must have been a Karma thing, the one question raised is interesting:

Will the newly established connection to Sony usher a time of false political correctness at CCP?

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Irisandra T'Lavel
#800 - 2012-03-29 06:43:41 UTC
Andski wrote:
Angelus X wrote:
lmao 10,000 accounts about to be unsubbed eh, CCP must be scareeeeee Lol


$150,000+ in monthly subscriptions alone is certainly no big deal


And how many of these will be back in a month or two because they miss their internet spaceships?

I watched it, I dont know if it was live or a replay, after the DUST514 keynote. I thought it was pretty ****** up to say that, but I didn't foresee this kind of fallout over it. Either way, I am not losing any sleep over it, it's just a game. For those of you that take it as Serious Business, I am sorry. Not that you are losing "Dear leader" but that you let a game consume that much of your life.

If they do a new election would it be the people that already ran, or would the goons fight for a new rep to be included?

And to the useless pubbie/npc alt comments: At least my two votes went to someone still on the CSM...